Mike Murray

I am strongly in favor of that. Even better would be adding "repeat post" for a FS item that you just recently posted about. Both of these would allow setting a filter so we don't need read your post again.

Mike Murray

> On Oct 20, 2017, at 12:23, Rick Johnson via OBRA wrote:
>
> If people would simply include "For Sale" or even just "FS" in the subject line of these types of listings it would go a long way towards alleviating the issues.
>
> Rick Johnson
> Bend, Oregon
>
>> On 10/20/2017 11:50 AM, Chris Valencia via OBRA wrote:
>> Scott is part of The Tribe-I forgive him. Is it worth OBRA creating a "For Sale" section?
>>
>> Chris with the mohawk
>> Boneyard Cycling
>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:12 AM, scott mares via OBRA wrote:
>>> Hi OBRA land
>>> I wanted to take min to apologize to Brian and Mike and apparently hundreds of other people that were really upset over my last post. I only posted it because I was getting emails for pictures so I thought I would post a notice where those pics were. Thats all.
>>>
>>> I would like to say that if there is abuse of the board that it should be brought to the moderator and then the moderator should contact that person. I don't think that Negative commentary and speculation on the person or the post in this public forum is really appropriate. Its a form of public shaming and actually bullying. Its sets a bad example and disappoints me not only this time but every time I see it. To me every time there is a post like that its an infraction if not more.
>>>
>>> Again I apologize to those people that I offended.
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My Computer

Agree with Scott.

On Oct 20, 2017 10:13 AM, "scott mares via OBRA" wrote:

Hi OBRA land
I wanted to take min to apologize to Brian and Mike and apparently hundreds
of other people that were really upset over my last post. I only posted it
because I was getting emails for pictures so I thought I would post a
notice where those pics were. Thats all.

I would like to say that if there is abuse of the board that it should be
brought to the moderator and then the moderator should contact that person.
I don't think that Negative commentary and speculation on the person or the
post in this public forum is really appropriate. Its a form of public
shaming and actually bullying. Its sets a bad example and disappoints me
not only this time but every time I see it. To me every time there is a
post like that its an infraction if not more.

Again I apologize to those people that I offended.
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joe cipale

Perhaps a better solution would be an OBRA Want-Ads/Classifieds section.
Fill out an on-line form and click 'send' and "poof", the goofs/services
get generated. After 10-14 days, the ad is deleted automatically. I have
done this for other groups/clubs successfully, so saying the overhead is
too much is baseless.

Joe

On Oct 20, 2017 12:37 PM, "Rick Johnson via OBRA"
wrote:

> If people would simply include "For Sale" or even just "FS" in the subject
> line of these types of listings it would go a long way towards alleviating
> the issues.
>
>
> Rick Johnson
> Bend, Oregon
>
>
> On 10/20/2017 11:50 AM, Chris Valencia via OBRA wrote:
>
> Scott is part of The Tribe-I forgive him. Is it worth OBRA creating a
> "For Sale" section?
>
> Chris with the mohawk
> Boneyard Cycling
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:12 AM, scott mares via OBRA > wrote:
>
>> Hi OBRA land
>> I wanted to take min to apologize to Brian and Mike and apparently
>> hundreds of other people that were really upset over my last post. I only
>> posted it because I was getting emails for pictures so I thought I would
>> post a notice where those pics were. Thats all.
>>
>> I would like to say that if there is abuse of the board that it should be
>> brought to the moderator and then the moderator should contact that person.
>> I don't think that Negative commentary and speculation on the person or the
>> post in this public forum is really appropriate. Its a form of public
>> shaming and actually bullying. Its sets a bad example and disappoints me
>> not only this time but every time I see it. To me every time there is a
>> post like that its an infraction if not more.
>>
>> Again I apologize to those people that I offended.
>> _______________________________________________
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>> obra@list.obra.org
>> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
>> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>>
>
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> Rogers
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Rick Johnson

If people would simply include "For Sale" or even just "FS" in
the subject line of these types of listings it would go a long way
towards alleviating the issues.

Rick Johnson

Bend, Oregon

Scott is part of The Tribe-I forgive him.�� Is it
worth OBRA creating a "For Sale"�� section?

Chris with the mohawk

Boneyard Cycling

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:12 AM, scott
mares via OBRA <obra@list.obra.org>
wrote:

Hi OBRA
land

I wanted to take min to apologize to Brian and Mike and
apparently hundreds of other people that were really upset
over my last post.�� I only posted it because I was getting
emails for pictures so I thought I would post a notice where
those pics were.�� Thats all.



I would like to say that if there is abuse of the board that
it should be brought to the moderator and then the moderator
should contact that person. I don't think that Negative
commentary and speculation on the person or the post in this
public forum is really appropriate.�� Its a form of public
shaming and actually bullying.�� Its sets a bad example and
disappoints me not only this time but every time I see it.��
To me every time there is a post like that its an infraction
if not more.



Again I apologize to those people that I offended.

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Ron Strasser

I agree. We all are citizens of OBRA. I would assume most of my posts annoy more than Scott offering up items. He is not the only one who posts such things. If interested, one can read, if not delete. Each of us come to OBRA from different backgrounds and how we are perceived here in the electronic sphere is not always a full picture of who we are as human beings. As cranky as I can be, I want to be more tolerant of how others view the world.
ron s.

From: Chris Valencia via OBRA
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 11:50 AM
To: scott mares
Cc: OBRA list
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Apologies

Scott is part of The Tribe-I forgive him. Is it worth OBRA creating a "For Sale" section?

Chris with the mohawk
Boneyard Cycling

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:12 AM, scott mares via OBRA wrote:

Hi OBRA land
I wanted to take min to apologize to Brian and Mike and apparently hundreds of other people that were really upset over my last post. I only posted it because I was getting emails for pictures so I thought I would post a notice where those pics were. Thats all.

I would like to say that if there is abuse of the board that it should be brought to the moderator and then the moderator should contact that person. I don't think that Negative commentary and speculation on the person or the post in this public forum is really appropriate. Its a form of public shaming and actually bullying. Its sets a bad example and disappoints me not only this time but every time I see it. To me every time there is a post like that its an infraction if not more.

Again I apologize to those people that I offended.
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Chris Valencia

Scott is part of The Tribe-I forgive him. Is it worth OBRA creating a "For
Sale" section?

Chris with the mohawk
Boneyard Cycling

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:12 AM, scott mares via OBRA
wrote:

> Hi OBRA land
> I wanted to take min to apologize to Brian and Mike and apparently
> hundreds of other people that were really upset over my last post. I only
> posted it because I was getting emails for pictures so I thought I would
> post a notice where those pics were. Thats all.
>
> I would like to say that if there is abuse of the board that it should be
> brought to the moderator and then the moderator should contact that person.
> I don't think that Negative commentary and speculation on the person or the
> post in this public forum is really appropriate. Its a form of public
> shaming and actually bullying. Its sets a bad example and disappoints me
> not only this time but every time I see it. To me every time there is a
> post like that its an infraction if not more.
>
> Again I apologize to those people that I offended.
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA mailing list
> obra@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>

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Rogers

Chris

Dave Sanderling

I agree that the reaction was harsh, and that "public shaming" and "cyber bullying" may be appropriate descriptions. If you don't like what someone's saying, send them a private message, be nice.

Come on, we're all humans here... This isn't a YouTube comments section. This is OBRA, coolest people on the planet! (I think.)

Robert

The board is basically community managed - offensive or inappropriate posts are typically handled just like your's was.

Posting an item for sale is an accepted use of this board. Repeated spamming with advertising is not - as you are now aware.

Good luck with your product.

Robert

�� Original Message ��
From: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: October 20, 2017 10:12
To: obra@list.obra.org
Reply-to: scott@crossbikereview.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Apologies

Hi OBRA land
I wanted to take min to apologize to Brian and Mike and apparently hundreds of other people that were really upset over my last post.�� I only posted it because I was getting emails for pictures so I thought I would post a notice where those pics were.�� Thats all.��

I would like to say that if there is abuse of the board that it should be brought to the moderator and then the moderator should contact that person. I don't think that Negative commentary and speculation on the person or the post in this public forum is really appropriate.�� Its a form of public shaming and actually bullying.�� Its sets a bad example and disappoints me not only this time but every time I see it.�� To me every time there is a post like that its an infraction if not more.��

Again I apologize to those people that I offended.
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John Wilger

FWIW, I have to agree on the moderation bit. While I could see the point of
the complaint, my thought when I read that reply was mostly just
“aaaawkward.....” Much better to contact either the moderator or at least
just not reply-all, so that you give the person a chance to make things
right (or not) of their own accord.

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:13 AM scott mares via OBRA
wrote:

> Hi OBRA land
> I wanted to take min to apologize to Brian and Mike and apparently
> hundreds of other people that were really upset over my last post. I only
> posted it because I was getting emails for pictures so I thought I would
> post a notice where those pics were. Thats all.
>
> I would like to say that if there is abuse of the board that it should be
> brought to the moderator and then the moderator should contact that person.
> I don't think that Negative commentary and speculation on the person or the
> post in this public forum is really appropriate. Its a form of public
> shaming and actually bullying. Its sets a bad example and disappoints me
> not only this time but every time I see it. To me every time there is a
> post like that its an infraction if not more.
>
> Again I apologize to those people that I offended.
> _______________________________________________
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> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
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scott mares

Hi OBRA land
I wanted to take min to apologize to Brian and Mike and apparently hundreds of other people that were really upset over my last post. I only posted it because I was getting emails for pictures so I thought I would post a notice where those pics were. Thats all.

I would like to say that if there is abuse of the board that it should be brought to the moderator and then the moderator should contact that person. I don't think that Negative commentary and speculation on the person or the post in this public forum is really appropriate. Its a form of public shaming and actually bullying. Its sets a bad example and disappoints me not only this time but every time I see it. To me every time there is a post like that its an infraction if not more.

Again I apologize to those people that I offended.

Michael

Sorry about that last post. Instead of replying in a private message, I accidentally replied back to OBRA chat.