OBRA: Officials: CX Age Groups

Neil Green

2014-09-04

Thank you David.

Neil

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From: John Wilson

Date:09/03/2014 12:19 AM (GMT-08:00)

To: 'David Hart' ,'Officials Obra'

Subject: Re: [OBRA Officials] CX Age Groups

Thanks David.

John

From: OBRA_Officials [mailto:obra_officials-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of David Hart
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 8:56 PM
To: Officials Obra
Subject: Re: [OBRA Officials] CX Age Groups

Like Candi mentioned, it's JR's with their own time slot for 10+ ages.

We accidentally left on the Jr 12+ wording. Sorry.

David Hart
NSCA-Certified Personal Trainer/Yoga Instructor
Nautilus Fitness Center at Marshall Community Center
360.241.8463
http://www.cityofvancouver.us/parksrec/page/marshall-center-fitness

From: brian.hart@hartcraft.com
To: obra_officials@list.obra.org
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 15:12:09 -0700
Subject: Re: [OBRA Officials] CX Age Groups

The actual junior races were all at the junior-only 12:20 slot at David Douglas.

There are, indeed, two confusing line items here http://cyclocross.gp/:

· Masters B 35+, Masters 50+, Masters 60+, Jrs 12+
· Masters 35+ A, B, & 45+, Jrs 10+

This does seem to imply that the juniors race in the same time slots as adults, since the category list is in the same order as the race schedule. However, as I expected, when I just checked the individual race flyers (except Heiser, for which there is no individual link yet), I found that all of them have the juniors in the same adult-free 12:20 time slot, concurrent with the Kiddie Kross. This matches the original Cross Crusade junior slots that were fairly generally adopted in the last couple of years by other promoters (although I do not think OBRA stipulates this—I suspect it just makes good business sense for promoters to mirror the same schedule).

It would probably more clear for the main GP page/flyer to have all juniors listed on the same line as the Kiddie Kross, since that is when they race.

Brian Hart

From: OBRA_Officials [mailto:obra_officials-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of newtons4@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 14:50
To: obra_officials@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Officials] CX Age Groups

Hello all...

I know Candi posted about correct age at CX races, but the GPRT flyer shows the junior category as 12+ (and racing with adults), yet there are 10 and 11 ages listed in the results. I also thought juniors under 12 couldn't race with adult categories.

I'm confused...

Neil Green

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John Wilson

2014-09-03

Thanks David.

John

From: OBRA_Officials [mailto:obra_officials-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf
Of David Hart
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 8:56 PM
To: Officials Obra
Subject: Re: [OBRA Officials] CX Age Groups

Like Candi mentioned, it's JR's with their own time slot for 10+ ages.

We accidentally left on the Jr 12+ wording. Sorry.

David Hart

NSCA-Certified Personal Trainer/Yoga Instructor

Nautilus Fitness Center at Marshall Community Center

360.241.8463

http://www.cityofvancouver.us/parksrec/page/marshall-center-fitness

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From: brian.hart@hartcraft.com
To: obra_officials@list.obra.org
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 15:12:09 -0700
Subject: Re: [OBRA Officials] CX Age Groups

The actual junior races were all at the junior-only 12:20 slot at David
Douglas.

There are, indeed, two confusing line items here http://cyclocross.gp/:

* Masters B 35+, Masters 50+, Masters 60+, Jrs 12+

* Masters 35+ A, B, & 45+, Jrs 10+

This does seem to imply that the juniors race in the same time slots as
adults, since the category list is in the same order as the race schedule.
However, as I expected, when I just checked the individual race flyers
(except Heiser, for which there is no individual link yet), I found that all
of them have the juniors in the same adult-free 12:20 time slot, concurrent
with the Kiddie Kross. This matches the original Cross Crusade junior slots
that were fairly generally adopted in the last couple of years by other
promoters (although I do not think OBRA stipulates this-I suspect it just
makes good business sense for promoters to mirror the same schedule).

It would probably more clear for the main GP page/flyer to have all juniors
listed on the same line as the Kiddie Kross, since that is when they race.

Brian Hart

From: OBRA_Officials [mailto:obra_officials-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf
Of newtons4@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 14:50
To: obra_officials@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Officials] CX Age Groups

Hello all...

I know Candi posted about correct age at CX races, but the GPRT flyer shows
the junior category as 12+ (and racing with adults), yet there are 10 and 11
ages listed in the results. I also thought juniors under 12 couldn't race
with adult categories.

I'm confused...

Neil Green

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David Hart

2014-09-03

Like Candi mentioned, it's JR's with their own time slot for 10+ ages.
We accidentally left on the Jr 12+ wording. Sorry.

David HartNSCA-Certified Personal Trainer/Yoga InstructorNautilus Fitness Center at Marshall Community Center360.241.8463http://www.cityofvancouver.us/parksrec/page/marshall-center-fitness

From: brian.hart@hartcraft.com
To: obra_officials@list.obra.org
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 15:12:09 -0700
Subject: Re: [OBRA Officials] CX Age Groups

The actual junior races were all at the junior-only 12:20 slot at David Douglas. There are, indeed, two confusing line items here http://cyclocross.gp/: · Masters B 35+, Masters 50+, Masters 60+, Jrs 12+· Masters 35+ A, B, & 45+, Jrs 10+ This does seem to imply that the juniors race in the same time slots as adults, since the category list is in the same order as the race schedule. However, as I expected, when I just checked the individual race flyers (except Heiser, for which there is no individual link yet), I found that all of them have the juniors in the same adult-free 12:20 time slot, concurrent with the Kiddie Kross. This matches the original Cross Crusade junior slots that were fairly generally adopted in the last couple of years by other promoters (although I do not think OBRA stipulates this—I suspect it just makes good business sense for promoters to mirror the same schedule). It would probably more clear for the main GP page/flyer to have all juniors listed on the same line as the Kiddie Kross, since that is when they race. Brian Hart From: OBRA_Officials [mailto:obra_officials-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of newtons4@comcast.net
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Subject: [OBRA Officials] CX Age Groups Hello all... I know Candi posted about correct age at CX races, but the GPRT flyer shows the junior category as 12+ (and racing with adults), yet there are 10 and 11 ages listed in the results. I also thought juniors under 12 couldn't race with adult categories. I'm confused... Neil Green
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Brian D. Hart, Sr.

2014-09-02

The actual junior races were all at the junior-only 12:20 slot at David Douglas.

There are, indeed, two confusing line items here http://cyclocross.gp/:

· Masters B 35+, Masters 50+, Masters 60+, Jrs 12+

· Masters 35+ A, B, & 45+, Jrs 10+

This does seem to imply that the juniors race in the same time slots as adults, since the category list is in the same order as the race schedule. However, as I expected, when I just checked the individual race flyers (except Heiser, for which there is no individual link yet), I found that all of them have the juniors in the same adult-free 12:20 time slot, concurrent with the Kiddie Kross. This matches the original Cross Crusade junior slots that were fairly generally adopted in the last couple of years by other promoters (although I do not think OBRA stipulates this—I suspect it just makes good business sense for promoters to mirror the same schedule).

It would probably more clear for the main GP page/flyer to have all juniors listed on the same line as the Kiddie Kross, since that is when they race.

Brian Hart

From: OBRA_Officials [mailto:obra_officials-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of newtons4@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 14:50
To: obra_officials@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Officials] CX Age Groups

Hello all...

I know Candi posted about correct age at CX races, but the GPRT flyer shows the junior category as 12+ (and racing with adults), yet there are 10 and 11 ages listed in the results. I also thought juniors under 12 couldn't race with adult categories.

I'm confused...

Neil Green

newton..@comcast.net

2014-09-02

Hello all...

I know Candi posted about correct age at CX races, but the GPRT flyer shows the junior category as 12+ (and racing with adults), yet there are 10 and 11 ages listed in the results. I also thought juniors under 12 couldn't race with adult categories.

I'm confused...

Neil Green