Rick Johnson
2016-11-17
Not particularly, about average for this time of year.��
On 11/17/2016 12:40 PM, Tyler's gmail
wrote:
wrote:
Was it cold that morning?
She claims she was "looking at a horse".
True story.��
"not paying
attention" AKA "texting"
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Jack
Bennett��
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From:
Rick Johnson via OBRA <obra@list.obra.org>
To:
Dan Anderson <danfrisbeeman@yahoo.com>
Cc:
"obra@list.obra.org"
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Sent:
Thursday, November 17, 2016 9:31 AM
Subject:
Re: [OBRA Chat] OT-Driving Speed limits
As
there always have been people who shouldn't
be behind the wheel at all...
No
joke, this happened just yesterday over
here. In clear and dry conditions someone in
a pickup truck drove straight into the back
of a full-sized bright yellow school bus
that was stopped in a regular drop-off
location with it's yellow caution flashers
going. The driver claimed she was not paying
attention and when she "looked up and the
bus was right there".
On
11/17/2016 7:58 AM, Dan Anderson via OBRA
wrote:
Someone passed
me on Washougal River Road last year
I was heading to a cross race.
��Speed limit 45, and I was driving
45. ��He passed me on a short
straight stretch with double yellow
lines right as we were approaching a
hard left-hand turn in the road, and
he narrowly missed a head-on
collision with another car that
appeared from behind that turn.
��There are people out there who
shouldn't be driving.
From:
Mike Murray via OBRA <obra@list.obra.org>
To:
obra@list.obra.org
Sent:
Wednesday, November 16, 2016
9:49 PM
Subject:
Re: [OBRA Chat] OT-Driving Speed
limits
In Candi's case the direction of
travel was away from area
hospitals. I suppose he could
have been late to work or
something but in all likelihood
he was just another dangerous
jerk.
Mike Murray
> On Nov 16, 2016, at 20:44,
Rick Johnson via OBRA <obra@list.obra.org>
wrote:
>
> That's a good point that
sometimes you don't know what
the reason for haste is. I had a
memorable situation - long ago
and far away - where someone was
trying to get past myself and
many other cars in an aggressive
fashion like that. I felt it
wasn't for me to judge and tried
the best I could not to get in
the way. A driver in front of me
however took it as a challenge
to impede this aggressive driver
the best they could but
eventually the person got by.
>
> Just a short time later I
saw the same vehicle racing
towards the emergency entrance
of the hospital that was just up
the road. To this day I don't
know what the actual situation
was - but my conscience is clear
in that I did no harm. I still
think it's a good way to behave.
>
> Sometimes simply slowing
and moving to the right is all
it takes for the person to pass
and be on their way to whatever
destiny awaits them.
>
>
>> On 11/16/2016 8:09 AM,
Ben via OBRA wrote:
>> Oregon's "basic rule"
indicates that the maximum
allowed rate of speed is the
posted limit, in perfect driving
conditions. So dry, sunny, clean
pavement. You can actually be
ticketed for "speeding," or
violation of the basic rule, by
going the speed limit, or even
under it, if your rate of speed
is exceeding what's safe for
conditions. If it's a skating
rink with black ice, even 45 in
a 55 could easily be considered
a clear violation of the basic
rule, and you could be given a
ticket for it.
>>
>> There's no real cut and
dried standard for how much you
need to decrease your speed for
conditions, but 5mph per variety
of hazard is probably going to
keep you well within justified.
If it's raining, reduce speed by
5. If it's night, reduce speed
by 5. If it's raining AND night
and it's dark and there's no
shoulder and there's leaves all
over the road and some asshole
has his headlights 10' from your
rear view mirror.... reduce by
as much as you need to be safe.
>>
>> Yea, some people will
hate you. But the only people
who behave like that guy are
people with personal problems -
not your problem. I try to
accommodate road ragers, if I
can keep my pride from
swelling... you never know if
he's just as ass, or if he's
trying to get to the hospital,
or whatever. Not for us to
judge. But also not our problem,
especially when we don't know.
Sounds like he probably could
have passed you if it was a
matter of life or death.
>>
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