T. Kenji Sugahara

One person is looking at PIR as a possible venue.

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 2:25 PM, via OBRA wrote:
> I think the original JF TT course was Sauvie Island until we got kicked off
> by a few residents; then West Union/Dairy Creek until we had tacks on road
> and a few a##hole drivers. Estacada can be iffy weather in Feb. How about
> something near Keizer?
>
>
> On Dec 28, 2016 11:05 AM, Jerald Powell via OBRA wrote:
>
> Hey Eric, over the years we���ve had a number of good but shorter TT courses
> in the valley. MAC has been using a TT course on Sauvie Island that doesn���t
> use the ���round the island��� course and stages at the school. Another one���
> Dave Auker put on a TT in the Buena Vista area years ago. Neither one uses
> State Hwys.
>
> Jerry
>
> Jerald M Powell
> 1924 SW Madison Street
> Portland Oregon 97205
>
> 503 222 7173
> 503 799 7823 (cell)
>
> jpowell@spiritone.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 28, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Erik Voldengen via OBRA
> wrote:
>
> Yeah, we'd have to shorten the course to the gate and back. Just not long
> enough. I'm not very happy about it, either.
>
>
>
> - Erik
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 7:38 PM, T. Kenji Sugahara via OBRA
> wrote:
>
> Looking at other venues, talking to some other promoters.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Jonathan lyons
> wrote:
>> I was afraid that was the case. The larger point still stands. How about a
>> return to PIR? That TT was well attended, as I recall. Fun, too!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 27, 2016, at 4:06 PM, T. Kenji Sugahara wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately this was a venue issue. Between half of the road collapsing
>> into the river and part of the road being sold to a private party, the
>> promoter could not run the event.
>>
>> If folks can help find venues that would be super helpful for promoters.
>> You may know of some quiet road with nice neighbors that none of us have
>> head of.
>>
>> Any help we can get would be appreciated.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 3:27 PM Jonathan Lyons via OBRA
>>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Woke up to the sad news that Jack Frost, one of our longest-running
>>> events
>>> and the kick-off to the road season, was no more. Cancelled.
>>>
>>> This seems a harbinger of yet more fall-off in road races here in
>>> OBRA-land in recent years. Remember Mary's Peak, Wildcat Mountain, As the
>>> Raven Flies (x2) ...? All gone, and that's just among the TTs' my
>>> preferred
>>> discipline. The number of mass-start road races is also down.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Of course, I don't know the backstory with JFrost, and I am well aware
>>> from my team's own promotion efforts that communities and venues are
>>> imposing higher and higher costs for hosting an event. Still, the OBRA
>>> community needs to think hard about new ways top hold a full range of
>>> events, around the state and throughout the calendar. This would fulfill
>>> the
>>> organization's mission by encouraging participation at all levels and
>>> refresh the pool of racers to ensure healthy fields and successful events
>>> in
>>> the future.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan Lyons
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>
>
>
>
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Phone: 503-278-5550
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Matt Mallet

I am working to get Mary's Peak back on the calendar in 2017, however right now we are looking at doing it as a mass start (with option to TT off the front;)

I won't be able to provide any more details until the race is on the calendar, but am just letting you know someone (me) is working on it, and hopefully other RDs are still putting stuff together to fill up the calendar.

darel..@easystreet.net

Jerald Powell

Hey Eric, over the years we’ve had a number of good but shorter TT courses in the valley. MAC has been using a TT course on Sauvie Island that doesn’t use the “round the island” course and stages at the school. Another one… Dave Auker put on a TT in the Buena Vista area years ago. Neither one uses State Hwys.

Jerry

Jerald M Powell
1924 SW Madison Street
Portland Oregon 97205

503 222 7173
503 799 7823 (cell)

jpowell@spiritone.com

> On Dec 28, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Erik Voldengen via OBRA wrote:
>
> ​Yeah, we'd have to shorten the course to the gate and back. Just not long enough. I'm not very happy about it, either.
>
> ​
>
>
> - Erik
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 7:38 PM, T. Kenji Sugahara via OBRA > wrote:
> Looking at other venues, talking to some other promoters.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Jonathan lyons
> > wrote:
> > I was afraid that was the case. The larger point still stands. How about a
> > return to PIR? That TT was well attended, as I recall. Fun, too!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Dec 27, 2016, at 4:06 PM, T. Kenji Sugahara > wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately this was a venue issue. Between half of the road collapsing
> > into the river and part of the road being sold to a private party, the
> > promoter could not run the event.
> >
> > If folks can help find venues that would be super helpful for promoters.
> > You may know of some quiet road with nice neighbors that none of us have
> > head of.
> >
> > Any help we can get would be appreciated.
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 3:27 PM Jonathan Lyons via OBRA >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Woke up to the sad news that Jack Frost, one of our longest-running events
> >> and the kick-off to the road season, was no more. Cancelled.
> >>
> >> This seems a harbinger of yet more fall-off in road races here in
> >> OBRA-land in recent years. Remember Mary's Peak, Wildcat Mountain, As the
> >> Raven Flies (x2) ...? All gone, and that's just among the TTs' my preferred
> >> discipline. The number of mass-start road races is also down.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Of course, I don't know the backstory with JFrost, and I am well aware
> >> from my team's own promotion efforts that communities and venues are
> >> imposing higher and higher costs for hosting an event. Still, the OBRA
> >> community needs to think hard about new ways top hold a full range of
> >> events, around the state and throughout the calendar. This would fulfill the
> >> organization's mission by encouraging participation at all levels and
> >> refresh the pool of racers to ensure healthy fields and successful events in
> >> the future.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jonathan Lyons
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
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> >>
> >> obra@list.obra.org
> >>
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> >>
> >> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
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> Executive Director
> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> Phone: 503-278-5550
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Mike Szwaya

Estacata TT course?

Erik Voldengen

​Yeah, we'd have to shorten the course to the gate and back. Just not long
enough. I'm not very happy about it, either.

​

- Erik

On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 7:38 PM, T. Kenji Sugahara via OBRA <
obra@list.obra.org> wrote:

> Looking at other venues, talking to some other promoters.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Jonathan lyons
> wrote:
> > I was afraid that was the case. The larger point still stands. How about
> a
> > return to PIR? That TT was well attended, as I recall. Fun, too!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Dec 27, 2016, at 4:06 PM, T. Kenji Sugahara wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately this was a venue issue. Between half of the road
> collapsing
> > into the river and part of the road being sold to a private party, the
> > promoter could not run the event.
> >
> > If folks can help find venues that would be super helpful for promoters.
> > You may know of some quiet road with nice neighbors that none of us have
> > head of.
> >
> > Any help we can get would be appreciated.
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 3:27 PM Jonathan Lyons via OBRA <
> obra@list.obra.org>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Woke up to the sad news that Jack Frost, one of our longest-running
> events
> >> and the kick-off to the road season, was no more. Cancelled.
> >>
> >> This seems a harbinger of yet more fall-off in road races here in
> >> OBRA-land in recent years. Remember Mary's Peak, Wildcat Mountain, As
> the
> >> Raven Flies (x2) ...? All gone, and that's just among the TTs' my
> preferred
> >> discipline. The number of mass-start road races is also down.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Of course, I don't know the backstory with JFrost, and I am well aware
> >> from my team's own promotion efforts that communities and venues are
> >> imposing higher and higher costs for hosting an event. Still, the OBRA
> >> community needs to think hard about new ways top hold a full range of
> >> events, around the state and throughout the calendar. This would
> fulfill the
> >> organization's mission by encouraging participation at all levels and
> >> refresh the pool of racers to ensure healthy fields and successful
> events in
> >> the future.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jonathan Lyons
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >> OBRA mailing list
> >>
> >> obra@list.obra.org
> >>
> >> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> >>
> >> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Kenji Sugahara
> Executive Director
> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> Phone: 503-278-5550
> http://www.obra.org
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T. Kenji Sugahara

Looking at other venues, talking to some other promoters.

On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Jonathan lyons
wrote:
> I was afraid that was the case. The larger point still stands. How about a
> return to PIR? That TT was well attended, as I recall. Fun, too!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 27, 2016, at 4:06 PM, T. Kenji Sugahara wrote:
>
> Unfortunately this was a venue issue. Between half of the road collapsing
> into the river and part of the road being sold to a private party, the
> promoter could not run the event.
>
> If folks can help find venues that would be super helpful for promoters.
> You may know of some quiet road with nice neighbors that none of us have
> head of.
>
> Any help we can get would be appreciated.
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 3:27 PM Jonathan Lyons via OBRA
> wrote:
>>
>> Woke up to the sad news that Jack Frost, one of our longest-running events
>> and the kick-off to the road season, was no more. Cancelled.
>>
>> This seems a harbinger of yet more fall-off in road races here in
>> OBRA-land in recent years. Remember Mary's Peak, Wildcat Mountain, As the
>> Raven Flies (x2) ...? All gone, and that's just among the TTs' my preferred
>> discipline. The number of mass-start road races is also down.
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course, I don't know the backstory with JFrost, and I am well aware
>> from my team's own promotion efforts that communities and venues are
>> imposing higher and higher costs for hosting an event. Still, the OBRA
>> community needs to think hard about new ways top hold a full range of
>> events, around the state and throughout the calendar. This would fulfill the
>> organization's mission by encouraging participation at all levels and
>> refresh the pool of racers to ensure healthy fields and successful events in
>> the future.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan Lyons
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> OBRA mailing list
>>
>> obra@list.obra.org
>>
>> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
>>
>> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>>
>

--
Kenji Sugahara
Executive Director
Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
Phone: 503-278-5550
http://www.obra.org

T. Kenji Sugahara

Unfortunately this was a venue issue. Between half of the road collapsing
into the river and part of the road being sold to a private party, the
promoter could not run the event.

If folks can help find venues that would be super helpful for promoters.
You may know of some quiet road with nice neighbors that none of us have
head of.

Any help we can get would be appreciated.

On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 3:27 PM Jonathan Lyons via OBRA
wrote:

> Woke up to the sad news that Jack Frost, one of our longest-running events
> and the kick-off to the road season, was no more. Cancelled.
>
> This seems a harbinger of yet more fall-off in road races here in
> OBRA-land in recent years. Remember Mary's Peak, Wildcat Mountain, As the
> Raven Flies (x2) ...? All gone, and that's just among the TTs' my preferred
> discipline. The number of mass-start road races is also down.
>
>
>
> Of course, I don't know the backstory with JFrost, and I am well aware
> from my team's own promotion efforts that communities and venues are
> imposing higher and higher costs for hosting an event. Still, the OBRA
> community needs to think hard about new ways top hold a full range of
> events, around the state and throughout the calendar. This would fulfill
> the organization's mission by encouraging participation at all levels and
> refresh the pool of racers to ensure healthy fields and successful events
> in the future.
>
>
>
> Jonathan Lyons
>
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>

EAL

Any word on why it was cancelled?  That would help as it might help address the issue going forward either with this race in the future or other races that might be planned.
We can't learn from our mistakes if we don't know what they are.
Ed

On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 3:37 PM, via OBRA wrote:

..Estacada and PIR TT's as well - both fantastic events.Tough news for sure.  And JF always seemed very well attended!

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [OBRA Chat] WTFRost?
From: Jonathan Lyons via OBRA
Date: Tue, December 27, 2016 3:27 pm
To: obra@list.obra.org

Woke up to the sad news that Jack Frost, one of our longest-running events and the kick-off to the road season, was no more. Cancelled.
This seems a harbinger of yet more fall-off in road races here in OBRA-land in recent years. Remember Mary's Peak, Wildcat Mountain, As the Raven Flies (x2) ...? All gone, and that's just among the TTs' my preferred discipline. The number of mass-start road races is also down.

Of course, I don't know the backstory with JFrost, and I am well aware from my team's own promotion efforts that communities and venues are imposing higher and higher costs for hosting an event. Still, the OBRA community needs to think hard about new ways top hold a full range of events, around the state and throughout the calendar. This would fulfill the organization's mission by encouraging participation at all levels and refresh the pool of racers to ensure healthy fields and successful events in the future.

Jonathan Lyons
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-------- Original Message --------

Subject: [OBRA Chat] WTFRost?

From: Jonathan Lyons via OBRA <obra@list.obra.org>

Date: Tue, December 27, 2016 3:27 pm

To: obra@list.obra.org



Woke up to the sad news that Jack Frost, one of our longest-running events and the kick-off to the road season, was no more. Cancelled.

This seems a harbinger of yet more fall-off in road races here in OBRA-land in recent years. Remember Mary's Peak, Wildcat Mountain, As the Raven Flies (x2) ...? All gone, and that's just among the TTs' my preferred discipline. The number of mass-start road races is also down.



Of course, I don't know the backstory with JFrost, and I am well aware from my team's own promotion efforts that communities and venues are imposing higher and higher costs for hosting an event. Still, the OBRA community needs to think hard about new ways top hold a full range of events, around the state and throughout the calendar. This would fulfill the organization's mission by encouraging participation at all levels and refresh the pool of racers to ensure healthy fields and successful events in the future.



Jonathan Lyons

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Woke up to the sad news that Jack Frost, one of our longest-running events and the kick-off to the road season, was no more. Cancelled.
This seems a harbinger of yet more fall-off in road races here in OBRA-land in recent years. Remember Mary's Peak, Wildcat Mountain, As the Raven Flies (x2) ...? All gone, and that's just among the TTs' my preferred discipline. The number of mass-start road races is also down.

Of course, I don't know the backstory with JFrost, and I am well aware from my team's own promotion efforts that communities and venues are imposing higher and higher costs for hosting an event. Still, the OBRA community needs to think hard about new ways top hold a full range of events, around the state and throughout the calendar. This would fulfill the organization's mission by encouraging participation at all levels and refresh the pool of racers to ensure healthy fields and successful events in the future.

Jonathan Lyons