Mike Murray
Have people forgotten what they should have learned before kindergarten?
The better way to ask for this would have been to say "It would be cool to
get split times. Could you guys do that?" Generally if you are trying to get
someone to do something it is best to start with just the question if that
is possible and to try to avoid impugning what they are currently doing.
"I've brought this up year after year and it always seems to go nowhere" -
Perhaps you have but that request never made it to Candi or me. We have
heard very few requests for this prior to recently.
"Every single race organization in the country posts finishing time splits
on their race results " - Although some races across the country post splits
a claim that all races do, or even that the majority races do, is specious.
Stage races do, as that is part of the deal. OBRA results have contained
splits for years. Races that hire a finish line company do. The Ride Through
The Countryside road race or parking lot criterium definitely do not.
"Race results are almost useless without Time splits." Really? Doesn't that
seem like a bit of a stretch? Without splits we could just never announce
any places and it would be about the same?
Now for the Q&A
Q: Could results contain splits?
A: Yes. For the most part we already have that data. There has been little
call for this before this year's PoC and no results output since then. There
are some technical details about how we need to modify or processes to not
make this a big flog to do each time. If you are really a detail oriented
person contact me off list. I could go on forever about those.
Q: What is the status of being able to do it?
A: We are working on it. We will get it done as soon as we can work out the
process issues. Hopefully before the next road race.
Q: Will you go back and add these to previous race results?
A: Nope. I like you guys but not that much. For the most part the data to do
that is gone. Even if it were not it would require a monumental amount of
data analysis.
Mike Murray
-----Original Message-----
From: OBRA [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Nate Gibson via
OBRA
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 13:03
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Finish times
I've brought this up year after year and it always seems to go nowhere....
Every single race organization in the country posts finishing time splits on
their race results, For every sport where a finish line is involved, except
for OBRA. Now that's not so much a criticism as a fact.
Notice how even right on the Finish Lynx website, it shows time splits for
their landing page? How hard can this be? Race results are almost useless
without Time splits. There's no reason we shouldn't have Time of winner,
average speed of winner, and time splits for every rider. As we know, this
data is already captured.
http://www.finishlynx.com/packages/cycling-timing-systems/
The idea that Jeremy is out of line, rude or otherwise disrespectful of the
hard work OBRA and it's officials do is absolutely ridiculous.We all want to
see our time splits, let's make it happen without all the bickering.
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