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Thomas Hoffman

2005-02-01

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I vote for leaving things alone. If a rider wants to race with three bikes

and spare parts parked in a pit, direct him to the Cross Season calendar.

If we allow for pits some rich doctor from Southern Oregon will figure out

that he could park his Super Light climbing bike at the bottom of the hill,

And his Super speedy Duel suspension at the top, and pay his brother to make

sure the right bike is at the right place, at the right time. All in the

pursuit of a shiny medal and bragging rights at dinner.

Considering how competitive the Master Experts are becoming, don't think Dr

Bennett and Dr Gumar wouldn't try it!

Thomas Hoffman

RE/MAX equity group

1975 NW 167th Place #100

Beaverton, OR 97006

503-495-5607 direct

www.tomshometeam.com

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From: Cheryl J. Willson [mailto:cjwil-@mindspring.com]

Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 10:27 AM

To: 'Obra'

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] MTB rules?

You can download OBRA rules including MTB rules and read them! They're on

the OBRA site. ( http://www.obra.org/forms/index.html )

I've pasted some of the rules below and the applicable rule 20.2.3 should

appear in bold. It's worth noting that rule changes are discussed at the

OBRA annual meeting...which is February 11 this year. I am sure, if anyone

is interested in proposing a rule change, Candi or Mike can tell them how to

propose a change for the agenda.

20 - MOUNTAIN BIKE RACING

20.1 - TYPES OF COMPETITION

- Cross-country -An individual or mass start competition which is held on a

circuit course comprised of forest roads, forest or field trails and unpaved

dirt or gravel roads (a minimal amount of paved road may be necessary).

- Point-to-Point - An individual or mass start competition held on a course

from point A to point B comprised of forest roads, forest or field trails

and unpaved dirt or gravel roads (a minimal amount of paved road may be

necessary).

- Hill Climb/Uphill -A competition of sustained climbing in which the finish

line is at a higher altitude than the start line. A hill climb may be a mass

start competition or a time trial.

- Downhill - A time trial of sustained descending occurring between a start

line and a finish line which is located at a lower altitude. Competitors

typically depart the start line in timed intervals (i.e. 30 or 60 seconds).

- Dual Slalom - An event where two competitors race head-to-head down two

parallel slalom courses. The two courses should be as close to identical as

possible with an average time differential of less than one second.

- Stage Races - Events where competitors are required to compete in a series

of different events toward one total overall score or time. A typical stage

race might consist of an uphill, a cross-country and a downhill time trial.

This event determines the most versatile rider and occurs over one or

several days. Each stage has a winner. Competitors must complete all stages

with the finishing times or points recorded after each event. The rider with

the lowest accumulated total time or the highest accumulated points at the

end of all stages is the winner. A rider may be rewarded for winning an

individual stage with bonus seconds, which are subtracted from the rider's

overall time (referred to as General Classification or G.C.).

- Observed Trials - Events conducted over an obstacle course including such

natural hazards as mud, rocks, water, etc. and can have any number of

sections. The riders attempt to negotiate each section without putting down

a foot or hand(dab). Each dab (foot or hand) adds a point to the rider's

score. The rider with the lowest score wins the event.

20.2 - RACING REGULATIONS

20.2.1 All riders must attend the pre-race briefing (riders' meeting)

normally held at the staging area prior to the race start.

20.2.2 Ignorance of the rules is not an excuse.

20.2.3 Racers shall complete the entire event (or individual stage) on the

same bicycle upon which the event was begun. All repairs during an event

shall be performed by the individual racer. No outside support is permitted.

All spare parts and tools shall be carried by the individual racer.

Cannibalizing: any part or component taken from one bicycle to repair or

improve the performance of another is not permitted.

20.2.4 Shortcutting and/or cutting trail switchbacks may result in

disqualification.

20.2.5 Foul riding, un-sportsmanlike behavior or the use of profane or

abusive language are grounds for warning, relegation, disqualification, fine

or recommended membership suspension. The penalty imposed shall be

determined by the Race Official or the OBRA Administrative Assistant.

20.2.6 Laws and ordinances of appropriate jurisdictions shall be observed

during participation in any event.

20.2.7 Only riders officially entered in the event may practice or compete

on the designated race course and they must wear their number plate and

number.

20.2..8 Infractions of rules, regulations and requirements specified or not

specifically defined may result in a warning, relegation, or

disqualification.

20.3 - CROSS-COUNTRY

20.3.1 Water shall be available only in designated feed zone(s) as outlined

by the Race Director. The Race Director will provide a neutral water zone

with water for any race exceeding 90 minutes in length. Official water zones

must be accessible and publicized before each race. Feeding (food handouts)

shall only be done in a designated feed zone. A feed handout to one rider

must not cause other riders to slow down or veer off course.

20.3.2 Racers riding bicycles have the right of way over racers pushing

bicycles. When practical, racers pushing should stay on the least rideable

portion of the path when being passed. A racer pushing or carrying his

bicycle can overtake a racer riding his bicycle provided he does not

interfere with the rider's progress.

20.3.3 Lapped riders must yield to leaders. Riders should voice the command

"Track" when overtaking another. It is the responsibility of the challenging

rider to overtake safely. You must yield to the passing rider on the first

command.

20.3.4 In the event two riders are vying for position, the leading rider

does not have to yield his position to the challenging rider. However, a

rider may not bodily interfere with the intent to impede another rider's

progress.

20.3.5 Traditional rules of racing apply: the leading rider owns the track.

On Feb 1, 2005, at 10:08 AM, Chris Brandt wrote:

I know that OBRA operates independently of USACycling and the UCI, but

I thought it might be helpful for those riders out there who race MTB

to know...

Mechanical Support:

The UCI has moved to allow the use of

"stock-it-yourself/do-it-yourself" pit areas for mechanical

assistance, meaning, you would no longer have to carry with you every

tool, tube, patch, tire, wheel, etc. during the race. This seems to

pertain to national championship level races, or races where they

select national team riders.

I'm not making any value judgement regarding this new policy, just

wanted to bring up the topic for discussion/clarification for OBRA

riders. What is OBRA's stance on this matter?

1.) Allow the use of the pits?

2.) Dis-allow the pits and require the rider to carry everything

necessary, as we have been doing since the beginnings of our sport.

Let's share in this discussion so that we're all on the same page. Any

ideas?

Chris Brandt

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I vote for leaving things alone. If a

rider wants to race with three bikes and spare parts parked in a pit, direct

him to the Cross Season calendar. <o:p></o:p>

If we allow for pits some rich doctor from

Southern Oregon will figure out that he could park his Super Light climbing

bike at the bottom of the hill,<o:p></o:p>

And his Super speedy Duel suspension at

the top, and pay his brother to make sure the right bike is at the right place,

at the right time. All in the pursuit of a shiny medal and bragging rights at

dinner.<o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

Considering how competitive the Master

Experts are becoming, don’t think Dr Bennett and Dr Gumar wouldn’t

try it!<o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

Thomas Hoffman<o:p></o:p>

RE/MAX equity group<o:p></o:p>

<st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">1975 NW 167th Place

#100</st1:address></st1:Street><o:p></o:p>

<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Beaverton</st1:City>,

<st1:State w:st="on">OR</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">97006</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><o:p></o:p>

503-495-5607 direct<o:p></o:p>

www.tomshometeam.com<o:p></o:p>

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From: Cheryl J.

Willson [mailto:cjwil-@mindspring.com] 

Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005

10:27 AM 

To: 'Obra' 

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] MTB

rules?<o:p></o:p>

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You can download OBRA

rules including MTB rules and read them! They're on the OBRA site. ( <?/fontfamily>http://www.obra.org/forms/index.html

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I've pasted some of the rules below and the applicable rule 20.2.3 should

appear in bold. It's worth noting that rule changes are discussed at the OBRA

annual meeting...which is February 11 this year. I am sure, if anyone is

interested in proposing a rule change, Candi or Mike can tell them how to

propose a change for the agenda. 

 

 

20 - MOUNTAIN BIKE RACING 

20.1 - TYPES OF COMPETITION 

- Cross-country -An individual or mass start competition which is held on a

circuit course comprised of forest roads, forest or field trails and unpaved

dirt or gravel roads (a minimal amount of paved road may be necessary). 

- Point-to-Point - An individual or mass start competition held on a course

from point A to point B comprised of forest roads, forest or field trails and

unpaved dirt or gravel roads (a minimal amount of paved road may be necessary).

 

- Hill Climb/Uphill -A competition of sustained climbing in which the finish

line is at a higher altitude than the start line. A hill climb may be a mass

start competition or a time trial. 

- Downhill - A time trial of sustained descending occurring between a start

line and a finish line which is located at a lower altitude. Competitors

typically depart the start line in timed intervals (i.e. 30 or 60 seconds). 

- Dual Slalom - An event where two competitors race head-to-head down two

parallel slalom courses. The two courses should be as close to identical as

possible with an average time differential of less than one second. 

- Stage Races - Events where competitors are required to compete in a series of

different events toward one total overall score or time. A typical stage race

might consist of an uphill, a cross-country and a downhill time trial. This

event determines the most versatile rider and occurs over one or several days.

Each stage has a winner. Competitors must complete all stages with the

finishing times or points recorded after each event. The rider with the lowest

accumulated total time or the highest accumulated points at the end of all

stages is the winner. A rider may be rewarded for winning an individual stage

with bonus seconds, which are subtracted from the rider's overall time

(referred to as General Classification or G.C.). 

- Observed Trials - Events conducted over an obstacle course including such

natural hazards as mud, rocks, water, etc. and can have any number of sections.

The riders attempt to negotiate each section without putting down a foot or

hand(dab). Each dab (foot or hand) adds a point to the rider's score. The rider

with the lowest score wins the event. 

20.2 - RACING REGULATIONS 

20.2.1 All riders must attend the pre-race briefing (riders' meeting) normally

held at the staging area prior to the race start. 

20.2.2 Ignorance of the rules is not an excuse. 

20.2.3 Racers shall complete the entire event

(or individual stage) on the same bicycle upon which the event was begun. All repairs

during an event shall be performed by the individual racer. No outside support

is permitted. All spare parts and tools shall be carried by the individual

racer. Cannibalizing: any part or component taken from one bicycle to repair or

improve the performance of another is not permitted. 

20.2.4 Shortcutting and/or cutting trail switchbacks may result in

disqualification. 

20.2.5 Foul riding, un-sportsmanlike behavior or the use of profane or abusive

language are grounds for warning, relegation, disqualification, fine or

recommended membership suspension. The penalty imposed shall be determined by

the Race Official or the OBRA Administrative Assistant. 

20.2.6 Laws and ordinances of appropriate jurisdictions shall be observed

during participation in any event. 

20.2.7 Only riders officially entered in the event may practice or compete on

the designated race course and they must wear their number plate and number. 

20.2..8 Infractions of rules, regulations and requirements specified or not

specifically defined may result in a warning, relegation, or disqualification. 

20.3 - CROSS-COUNTRY 

20.3.1 Water shall be available only in

designated feed zone(s) as outlined by the Race Director. The Race Director

will provide a neutral water zone with water for any race exceeding 90 minutes

in length. Official water zones must be accessible and publicized before each

race. Feeding (food handouts) shall only be done in a designated feed zone. A

feed handout to one rider must not cause other riders to slow down or veer off

course. 

20.3.2 Racers riding bicycles have the right of way over racers pushing

bicycles. When practical, racers pushing should stay on the least rideable

portion of the path when being passed. A racer pushing or carrying his bicycle

can overtake a racer riding his bicycle provided he does not interfere with the

rider's progress. 

20.3.3 Lapped riders must yield to leaders. Riders should voice the command

"Track" when overtaking another. It is the responsibility of the

challenging rider to overtake safely. You must yield to the passing rider on

the first command. 

20.3.4 In the event two riders are vying for position, the leading rider does

not have to yield his position to the challenging rider. However, a rider may

not bodily interfere with the intent to impede another rider's progress. 

20.3.5 Traditional rules of racing apply: the leading rider owns the track. 

 

 

 

<?/fontfamily>On Feb 1, 2005, at 10:08 AM, Chris Brandt wrote:<o:p></o:p>

I know that OBRA operates

independently of USACycling and the UCI, but 

I thought it might be helpful for those riders out there who race MTB 

to know... 

 

Mechanical Support: 

The UCI has moved to allow the use of 

"stock-it-yourself/do-it-yourself" pit areas for mechanical 

assistance, meaning, you would no longer have to carry with you every 

tool, tube, patch, tire, wheel, etc. during the race. This seems to 

pertain to national championship level races, or races where they 

select national team riders. 

 

I'm not making any value judgement regarding this new policy, just 

wanted to bring up the topic for discussion/clarification for OBRA 

riders. What is OBRA's stance on this matter? 

 

1.) Allow the use of the pits? 

 

2.) Dis-allow the pits and require the rider to carry everything 

necessary, as we have been doing since the beginnings of our sport. 

 

Let's share in this discussion so that we're all on the same page. Any ideas? 

 

Chris Brandt<o:p></o:p>

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