Re: Violent driver

Gerard Smith

2012-08-22

Or just get one of these for the REALLY aggressive ones. http://www.competitivecyclist.com/accessories/kimber/safety.2324.html
Self defense..

From: Shane Gibson >
Date: Wednesday, 22 August 2012 10:24 AM
To: "obra@list.obra.org" >
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Violent driver

Incidentally - I had an aggro driver rear end me because as he stated (after screaming "I'm going to rip your eff-ing head off your eff-ing motha eff-ing shoulders and sh*t down your eff-ing motha eff-ing neck") ... I stopped 6 car lengths back to let cars in front of me turn left. So - I did leave a little space - maybe 3 car lengths - but clearly more than his blood pressure threshold was capable of handling. That resulted in his determination of a best response; smash into the back of me.

I called 911 as he's screaming this, and recorded the incident on my camera phone. The police told me I was in violation of his civil liberties by not notifying him I was recording the incident. Frankly - I think the officer was full of it. There are cameras everywehre recording us already. Especially since this person was basically stating he was ready to kill me over the incident.

Just something to think about ... check out the law before you start recording someone during an incident. It'd be absurd, but not beyond the bounds of our whacked out legal system, for something to be thrown out if you didn't notify the offending person prior to recording the incident.

~~shane

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"Opportunities multiply as they are seized." - Sun Tzu

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 9:14 AM, > wrote:
I'm starting to believe a GoPro recording commutes is the only way to go. $250 is cheap insurance for the cyclist to ensure people like this pay the price for this type of road rage. It's hard to prove otherwise, but a full recording for the officers to view would seal the fate of these a-holes!

My 2cents
GC

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On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Greg Sanders > wrote:

> Around 7am I was biking north on 12th Ave and was clearly intentionally buzzed on an open road by a dude in a red truck. Gave him a "what was that for?" wave and he threw his hand up in response. I caught up to him at the light at Milwaukie and Powell and pulled into the right side of the left lane next to him, where I would need to be for my left turn. As I approached, he swung his door open violently in an attempt to hit me or show that he wanted to hit me. I got close enough and looked over to indicate that I wanted to talk and he rolled down his window. I focused all of my energy on remaining calm and collected and friendly because I had it in my head that that was the best approach. Here's how the conversation went.
>
> Me, calmly: "You're going to hurt someone driving like that."
> Man in Truck, screaming: "You have to get out of the middle of the f*ing road you f*ing a*hole!"
> Me: "I was as far right as I could be with cars and road inconsistencies."
> MIT: "You were 6 feet into the road and don't even pay taxes!"
> Me: "I do in fact pay taxes, drive a car, and have a license."
> Me, still calmly: "You are going to kill someone driving like that, and they're going to be someone's mother, father, or kid."
> MIT, still screaming: "Well a*holes like you deserve to die."
> Me: "I really hope you have a great day."
>
> The conversation went about as well as I could have made it go but I gotta say it feels pretty crappy and it's distracting and a bit scary. Wish I would've gotten his license plate and video'd the interaction but I was too focused on keeping my cool. In any case, watch out for a dude in his early 40s with a goatee driving a big red truck around the Brooklyn neighborhood.
>
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