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I realize everyone does it to some extent, but if you do, you have to accept the consequences, as did the person who was caught this morning.
Just to show the police are being fair, they were pulling cars over in my neighborhood for the same thing. One idiot drove right by the police car at the intersection and rolled through the stop sign. He might as well have gotten ou of his car and walked up to the police officer in the car and asked for a ticket. The reason why they were at the intersection that week was a pedestrian was hit at that location.
Usually, that is what prompts these stings, and I would not be surprised if there had not been some sort of incident at that location. It is a bit dangerous at that location given the road construction right where the entrance to the plant with all the truck traffic intersects with the beginning of the bike path.
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George Schreck
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From: "Jeff Tedder & Shari"
As a matter of fact I do obey the laws but alot of us never come to a 4 way stop and make a complete stop, especially when there is no cars in sight.......And a good portion don't do it in the car as well......Dean Lucas and his wife Julia got pulled over not long ago for the exact same thing on an early Sunday morning and no cars around, 242.00 ticket each....If they are going to place a cycling sting somewhere I would suggest a busy area of town where people rolling through a stop sign could cause problems....Where he got popped there is little to no traffic anytime of the day, except for cyclists and runners.........I am not saying to run stop signs but a little common sense from an officer on where to do this and who to give the tickets to would make more of an impact.
Anyway George, next team ride I will make sure your at a complete stop at every stop sign and light....OK.....I will be counting how many tickets you should have received at the end of the ride.......HAH....See ya
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From: gschreckchat@comcast.net
To: Jeff Tedder & Shari ; Axle ; obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bike Sting
One could make that argument if you were in a car and the only one around, and it would be equally unpersuasive. The point is, if we want to be treated as vehicles with the right to use the roads, behave as one.
However, I know for a fact that Jeff obeys all the laws as a good example to others as well as for his personal safety.
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George Schreck
gschreckchat@comcast.net
(503) 502-0425
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From: "Jeff Tedder & Shari"
Bummer, this is happening all over town, even in downtown Vancouver a friend of mine got pulled over for rolling through a stop sign.....Spendy ticket.....
242.00 seems a little extreme when there was probably no other vehicles anywhere around....But it look like they are trying to send a message because of all the conflicts
between cyclist and vehicles in recent times....Be safe out there...
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From: Axle
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:29 AM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Bike Sting
There is a police bike sting going on near the esplanade and Portland Opera...Mc Coys wood shop area. SE
I just got pulled over by Portland's Finest for Failure to comply with a traffic control device, or not completely stopping for a stop sign at 7:47 AM this morning.
I was pulled over asked How I was doing and then asked if I was aware that cyclists had to abide by motor traffic laws, I told him I wasn't going to argue with him.
I was issued a $242.00 ticket.
He told me I could attend a Share the Road Class and pay $30 and most likely get the ticket reduced or dropped.
As I pulled away I saw about 6 other cyclists pulled over by motorcycle cops.
This was near Portland Opera and Division on Water Ave.
Ugg.
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