Chris Alling

I have forgotten what the issue was here. Maybe we should build a fence
around the state to keep the transients out. Oh I am sorry that is a
different arguement.

If you have an issue with the rules and with an out of state OBRA memeber
winning a medal that you feel was yours to win get on your bike and train to
win next year obviously you have discovered you were not good enough to win
this year.

>From: gschreckchat@comcast.net
>To: "Erik Long" , obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] State Championships???
>Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 21:11:31 +0000
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>"it ceases to be an Oregon championship and becomes a different race with a
>different medal"
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>It works for me.
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>George Schreck
>gschreckchat@comcast.net
>(503) 502-0425
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>-------------- Original message --------------
>From: "Erik Long"
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>The idea behind a State Championship, Brian, is to get as many of a given
>state's riders (regardless of city residence and hair color) gathered on
>the same course, on the same day, for the same race. You want to win that
>race because of the recognition that comes with beating the rest of the
>riders in your state, in your category in the most fiercely contested
>one-day race held within your state.
>This is why it doesn't make sense to have out-of-state riders competing in
>such an event. The Idea behind such a race is to determine who can win
>amongst Oregon's racers. If Oregon's ridrers are competing against (or
>being helped by) Washington and California riders, it ceases to be an
>Oregon Championship and becomes just another road race, with a different
>medal.
>-Erik
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>From: Brian Mack
>To: obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: [OBRA Chat] State Championships???
>Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 13:29:25 -0700
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>I'm a little confused - What makes one race on the calendar special
>enough to be called a championship race? Why should I care more about
>winning it vs. any of the other road races out there, and why would
>anyone care if an out-of-stater beat them at that race more than any
>other?
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>Is the idea that OBRA is so infested with racers from Ca and Wa that we
>have to have a special race just to determine who the best person is in
>this state? Why would anyone care who that was? How about a blonde
>hair championships, or Portland championship, or one for people owning
>an SUV?
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>Or is it more arbitrary, just saying that everyone in the state should
>show up at some random event so that we can determine who the best rider
>is out of everybody. The winner on that particular day, in the weather
>that it had, on that kind of course, out of the people who didn't crash
>or have flats, whose tactics happened to work... who cares?
>
>Whatever it is that makes the race meaningful is how it should be
>restricted. For my part, if I show up, it'll only be for a chance to
>win a free shirt with a nice picture on the front and pockets in the
>back, and I probably won't care too much if I get beat by a guy from
>Washington, or if he has three legs or drives a Buick or has four
>testicles.
>
>Brian
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>From: "Erik Long"
>To: obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] State Championships???
>Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 20:48:29 +0000
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