Re: TTT Line Crossers

shane.young@comcast.net

2007-05-13

I found that this year the teams were much better than the teams in the past years. There is one set of corners that a great number of cut last year. This year when I was on that set of corners I didn't see anyone cut them. Coming from a "one time official" point of view, I think photos are a great way to have undisputed evidence. As a photographer, I am not there to catch people doing wrong, but if Candi needs them for evidence I am more than willing to give them to her. That being said I have also given Candi photos to solidify results when results for a finish were in question. That allowed for more accurate results. So for better or for worse, there are several photographers at the races. Don't cheat and you won't get disqualified. I think that Candi can tell from the photos what teams were deliberate and what teams weren't.

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Lisa_Tim Ehlers"
> Interesting observation mr. kenji! When I post out the rest of my photos
> you will find some that are crossing the yellow line also. I think to
> probably get the best line possible without using brakes you will push the
> yellow line if you can and maybe then some, and some more and maybe so on.
> If you come into a few of the corners and you are pushing 25-30mph and on
> the yellow, your momentum will most likely throw you into the oncoming lane
> on your exit of the corner (unless you slow down prior or brake through the
> corner). marshals were at the most trafficked areas and were doing their
> best to stop traffic in both directions as teams came through. Safety I
> believe is always first and I think this race is pretty safe with its
> location and traffic (minimal).
>
> I have shots from the start line and some of the teams are crossing the
> yellow there so they can get around the teams that are staging to start in a
> safe passing distance. I also should have one where there are three teams
> all shooting down towards corner seven and there is no way to ride three
> teams in one of those lanes.
>
> I do not think it was blatant by any team that was out there, and what were
> the instructions given to them at the start? Since you have ridden this
> course before you know how it is laid out so there are a few corners that
> you will push or go over the yellow and most have a clear line of site for
> oncoming traffic. Corner 7 which is a hard left is coned so you basically
> have to go into the oncoming lane on entry and exit of the corner. They
> also had the marshals at that corner.
>
> I don't think any of the results would be much different and I do not think
> that by us photographers posting our pictures that any possible changes
> should occur. If that would become the norm then myself as a photographer
> would have to make sure I post no photo where anyone appears in violation of
> the rules set in OBRA or any particular rules/instructions given at the
> start.
>
> To answer your question though. I did not witness it to be prevalent
> through the entire course. There were corners and teams that did cross the
> yellow, and it happened. I don't believe even those that are in our photos
> were doing this on every corner or with disregard for their safety or rules.
> I again would ask what were the instructions at the start? Not pointing
> fingers at anyone, but it is a race, they are riding hard as a team and
> trying to push the limit and get a championship medal. No one is hurt, no
> one is worse off for it.
>
> Now was your original thought just pointing out something from Bill's photos
> or is it trying to say that some teams were possibly breaking a rule?
>
> Thanks for reading if you made it this far.
>
> Tim Ehlers
> TRE Photography
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "T. Kenji Sugahara"
> To: "obra List"
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 6:46 PM
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] TTT Line Crossers
>
>
> > Hey folks,
> >
> > I was dinking around on Bill's site and found a bunch of photos of
> > some line crossers. Was this prevalent at the race? I've highlighted
> > some of the photos on my site.
> >
> > (Yes, I had fun with them- but all of them were across the line)
> >
> > k-
> >
> > http://obra3.blogspot.com
> >
> >
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