Brian L
I believe we MUST disqualify teams that gained an advantage by cutting the
corners. If teams were avoiding accidents and were not attempting to gain an
advantage, then I don't see cause for a DQ.
The 15 minutes protest rule is not applicable in this case since the
disadvantaged teams could not have known about the cheating at that time.
In fact, the disqualifications should not be applicable to a protest and the
Chief should DQ the teams for their own safety and the integrity of OBRA.
Brian List
-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Candi Murray
Sent: Lunes, 14 de Mayo de 2007 02:19 p.m.
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Rules- The letter of the law? Intrepretation
Scenario
A team time trial. Times are posted at the start. Long drive home and the
wonderful OBRA photographers start to post their wares. A 2nd place team
notes that the team that beat them by a mere 7 seconds is photographed over
the centerline in no less then 4 pictures. Protest is filed. Results are
posted on the web 20 minutes later.
What to do?
OBRA rules state
15.1.2 Unless instructed by the Chief Referee, all riders must stay to the
right of the centerline
11.1 No rider shall benefit from his or her misconduct. No team shall
benefit from its misconduct, or the misconduct of one of its members.
12.3 Protests concerning incidents during the race will be presented to the
Chief Referee in writing and accompanied by a fee of $10, which will be
forwarded to OBRA. They must be submitted within 15 minutes of the
protester's finish
Presuming this is a standard "though shalt not cross the centerline" event,
it's a DQ. 6" centerline violations in the corner would be applying rules to
apply rules. This is flagrantly cutting the corner and the distance. If
the photographs were the only four turns that they cut, its probably worth 5
seconds at best. Since we all know that if this happened in the
photographs, it happened at 90% of the opportunities on the course.
If the violating team is disqualified does every team evidenced by the
photographs get disqualified? Or just the one protest acted upon?
Do we allow the 15 minute rule from acting on the matter. Are results really
formally posted at the event or is the on line results the final results.
Its obviously not in everyone's interest to allow results to stand when
there is flagrant cheating. The UIC allows "evidence"
after the fact to be submitted and disqualification to happen significantly
later.
So many things to take into consideration.
Any help?
Candi
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