Re: centerline violation

Luciano bailey

2007-05-16

I think the difference might be the thret of fatality involved in
centerlines violations which I believe prompted the rule in the first place.
Not to minimize the risk involved in the no hands scenario but the chances
of catstrophic aaccident are far less.

>From: Dave
>To: obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] centerline violation
>Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 13:56:08 -0700
>
>Here's one for you-
>
>What about that rule where you have to have both hands on the bars when you
>cross the finish line? An examination of pictures from just about any RR
>this rear will show riders with both hands in the air. Maybe I'm off base
>but I thought that was an instant DQ (not Dairy Queen you starved skinny
>climbers).
>
>Dave
>
>
>
>
>Subject: Re: centerline violation
>Date: 05/15/2007 01:45 PM
>From: gschreckch..@comcast.net
> Excellent analysis and summary.
>
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>George Schreck
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>-------------- Original message --------------
>From: Andy Stahl
>Candi,
>
>It is my understanding that a disqualification or other penalty can result
>from two different processes -- 1) as a result of a racer's protest; or, 2)
>as a result of an official's decision based upon evidence. The 15-minute
>rule applies only to the first process, not to the second. Performance
>enhancing drug use would be an example of the second process at work, as
>drug use could never be effectively dissuaded through the protest process
>with its 15-minute requirement.
>
>The TTT photographs are much like a drug test. They are evidence of a rule
>violation that should be acted upon by race officials. The fact that a
>protest was also filed is irrelevant. I would deny the protest (citing the
>15-minute rule), but penalize all the center-line offending teams for which
>evidence exists using the official's inherent power to do so.
>
>As for what constitutes a centerline violation, the arguments regarding the
>marshaled corners are persuasive, as are the arguments regarding the start
>line and emergency avoidance of fallen cyclists. However, the corner
>cutting in the middle of the straight sections is centerline violation in
>its purest form.
>
>Andy
>
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