Re: centerline violation

jakebigham

2007-05-17

Luciano-
I would reckon it works the way most other rule enforcement works: if
you get caught breaking the rules you may be subject to penalty. If
the police officer sees you failing to stop at a stop sign, he or she
may write you a ticket. It doesn't matter if lots of other people
fail to stop at that sign; the police saw you - not someone else.
Jack Abramoff gets caught defrauding Native Americans and bribing
public officials, does that mean other lobbyists are not offenders?
No, it means this is the one they caught. Justice is not always fair-
even when it works the way it is suppose to.
IMHO of course, enjoy the afternoon if you can- I am stuck in my
basement (where is the justice in that? ; ) ) -Jake Bigham
On May 17, 2007, at 2:49 PM, Luciano bailey wrote:

> In an ideal world all would play fair, if a standard of evidence is
> used to DQ one group that groups violation may not be isolated and
> the evidence was dependant on the shot selection of photographers.
> This is not a defense for the offenders only a query as to how a
> group is deemed in violation and another is not.
>
>
>> From: Andy Stahl
>> To: "Luciano bailey" ,sugahara@mac.com,
>> obra@list.obra.org
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] centerline violation
>> Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 09:08:04 -0700
>>
>>
>>
>> Luciano,
>>
>>
>> There is no kind of rule violation evidence that is collected
>> "evenly," e.g., only some racers are drug-tested; the official
>> driving behind the pack cannot monitor evenly the entire pack for
>> centerline violations, etc. Rule enforcement in any game or sport
>> is intended to be a deterrent, not a scientific study. Nor is the
>> criminal standard of irrefutable (i.e., beyond a reasonable doubt)
>> proof
>> appropriate to games or sports. This isn't about jailing people,
>> it's about playing fair -- something we all should have learned in
>> kindergarten.
>>
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> At 03:20 AM 5/17/2007, Luciano bailey wrote:
>>
>> In sifting through all the
>> dialogue on this issue the remaining case would be do we have
>> photos of
>> all the teams evenly and accurately captured to establish true
>> advantage.
>> This would require photos of every possible site where an infraction
>> could have occured, in order to establish that kind of irrifutable
>> proof.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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