Pistis Mountain Bike Racing Team
We sure miss your races. Cliff McCann Pistis MinistriesPistis.us541-659-4104> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:11:38 -0700> From: raggy23@yahoo.com> To: thompsok@loswego.k12.or.us; obra@list.obra.org> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Mt Bike race number> > As a promoter of over 10 years.> Kevin is 100% correct after June numbers drop big time, even if there is no other event the same day> I think we have had this chat 20 times now.> It has nothing to do with promoters, nothing to do with courses, nothing to do with cost...remember as I always point out it was the same cost to race the oakridge ftf last year as it was in 1992, even cheaper for JR's.> The bottom line is people stop showing up after June> We can go round and round about it and why it happens, but the answer is people stop coming.> This is a BIG part of why there is no oakridge ftf this year, when I was not allowed by the forest service to host the event in May and instead I would have had the race in July I decided to pass for this year, as it sucks to put a bunch of effort out to host a race for 50-75 people no offense and at the end of the day loose money.> I miss not seeing you racers this year, but I can't afford to loose money.> As before think about the LONG list of races that are no longer around.> Take care> Randy Dreiling> > > ----- Original Message ----> From: kevin thompson > To: obra@list.obra.org> Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 12:56:06 PM> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Falls City Firecracker AWESOME> > John, and everyone else who is interested,> > I am speaking for myself, none of the handful of other mountain bike promoters have said they agree with anything I am going to say here.> > This year was my 6th year running the Firecracker. Of course I want more people there. It takes just as much work to put a race if 10 people show up, as it does if 200 show up.> > Several years back, Shane Young was doing the OBRA rep job at the mountain bike races and one of the things he did to entertain himself was to track attendance through out the season. The conclusion that he made was that after school got out in June, that fewer racers showed up to race. After reading John's email today, I went back to look at my history in the OBRA arcives. My data backs Shane's data up. I checked the old schedules to see what conficts where happening on the dates the Firecracker was happening. This is what I found.> > The most surprising to me was in 2005 the firecracer had an entire July weekend to its self (just what John seems to want). I had 97 racers.> > The complete history is:> > July 2003, Brownsville crit, and state track on the same day, 115 racers> July 2004, Silverton rr, firecracker is the xc state champ, 89 racers> July 2005, no compitition the entire weekend, 97 racers> August 2006, Woodland rr, 75 racers> May 2007, Swan Island, 158 racers> June 2008, Silverton, 170 racers.> > The last 2 years, the race was before school got out and I almost doubled participation. > > I tried for 4 years to promote a race in the summer, it was not really worth my effort.> > Any thoughts?> > See you all at Pickets.> > Kevin> > _______________________________________________> OBRA mailing list> obra@list.obra.org> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org> > > > > _______________________________________________> OBRA mailing list> obra@list.obra.org> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
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