Race promoter subjectivity

chad butler

2014-12-27

I don't know the woman who was injured but regardless of whether she normally takes responsibility for her own actions or not she DID get into a horrific accident to which she feels like a victim, as we all would. The lawsuit is likely something that she's merely going along with rather than propogating her own self. When you're in her situation it's easy to acquiesce to the advice flowing at you from professionals such as lawyers. So let's not victimize her twice, she's suffering already and she's part of us, the local cycling community.

No race promoter would have known that she was at particular risk prior to the crash, so this topic wouldn't have prevented her risk or outcome. I've only promoted one race (USCF) but have promoted a fairly large annual music festival for almost two decades and I'm absolutely going to take charge of an event I'm promoting which means excluding people even for just personal reasons if the reasons are important enough to me. There's a difference between a private and public event. Even though our events happen in public the registration process makes it 'private'. Discrimination laws don't have much traction in regards to private events. Promoters can do what they want, though OBRA may choose to stop sanctioning their races if they're out of line with OBRA's expectations.


Brian

2014-12-27

People like these are a frickin' plague. Take responsibility for your damn selves!!!! Word on the street is EVERY other damn rider made it down the race with no problems. The bike industry currently is in the crapper so I'm sure this is just what Park needs. Bachelor is just making it by currently. I was there a couple of months ago. It was a blast. I suck at jumps but they have them so well groomed that it's hard not to make them cleanly. My buddy and I were discussing this while climbing up the road to Sandy yesterday. Both of us have hurt ourselves while racing, riding trails, etc and we couldn't even remotely think about blaming somebody else. Now, if the promoter tacklers you off your bike mid run, then maybe you have a case. Otherwise, shake it off, get back to riding. We both hoped that at the very least the bike community would turn their backs on them and people like them. I wish bad things upon them. They suck! I'm an out of work shop guy who could definitely use the money but I would never do something that could jeopardize or harm our rad scene that is really just starting to get rolling. End of rant. I was pissed yesterday when we were talking about it but riding quickly erased that. To open my emails and read this first thing in the morning just pisses me off again. Need another ride I guess.
Brian

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marky mark

2014-12-27

Ahh. Now I know.

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Michael Medina

2014-12-27

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Robert Jackson

2014-12-27

Yes. Enquiring minds want to know.

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marky mark

2014-12-27

Is there a back story to this? Or is it just a fictional Holiday story?


Nate gibson

2014-12-25

I wouldn't let her in my race. The liability risk would be too great.