Gorge Roubaix: What would it cost to bring it back?

Mike Murray

2017-01-04

I feel compelled to point out that the cost of liability insurance through
OBRA has not increased for many years and remains the same this year as it
was last year.

I also want to make it clear that this is not in any way a jab at Chad. He
may have needs for insurance that OBRA does not cover that have gone up in
price and he is certainly correct that other non-insurance costs have gone
up while participation has trended downward. Chad has been a key race
promotor in Oregon and elsewhere for years. He does a great job.

On the general subjects of racing going away; it is bothersome that there
are less races of some types currently but there are lots more races that
were put on in the past and are no longer put on then there are current
races. Races come and go. What is essential is that new races come up to
replace the ones that go away. If you are not seeing enough of the types of
race you like then the things to do are:

1) Make sure you always go to the ones you like and drag as many friends to
them as you can.
2) Try to help the people putting on the types of races you like as much as
you can; find them volunteers, help them with setup, take down, follow car
driving, etc.
3) Consider putting on races yourself. OBRA provides a lot of help to make
this much easier.
4) Officiate at races and find friends and relatives to officiate. It is
simple to become an official and it is a paid job. Consider waiving your
fees for officiating at the race types you want to see more of. A shortage
of officials is a real rate limiter for OBRA.

Mike Murray

-----Original Message-----
From: OBRA [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Tommaso Gomez
via OBRA
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 11:39
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Gorge Roubaix: What would it cost to bring it back?

Folks, I am deeply saddened to learn from Chad Sperry's post that the Gorge
Roubaix is no longer on the calendar for 2017. As Chad explained, this is
due to rising costs of permits, insurance, etc. I would like to float some
questions and ideas to bring this event back.

To Chad Sperry:
In order for Breakaway Promotions to make a reasonable profit off this race,
what would the registration fees need to be for each stage of the race?
Have you considered only putting on a single day race (maybe just Mosier) in
order to lower costs and maximize attendance?

To the OBRA community:
How much more are you willing to pay to bring these races back?

My take:
Having raced in Oregon for 2 years, I came to regard the Gorge Roubaix as
the crown jewel the OBRA calendar - one of a select few race venues that
really distinguished our racing scene from other states. The drone footage
from last year makes the Tour of California look like some stage race in New
Jersey. Maybe we could a float a survey to the community to see what people
are willing to pay. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask a lot more than
the typical $50 fee - say $80 per day. I'd be interested to hear if other
people feel the same way.
-TG
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Tommaso Gomez

2016-12-31

Yes, Dronescape (Kenji Sugahara) covered the 2015 Dalles Stage and the 2016
Mosier Stage:
https://vimeo.com/161603929
https://vimeo.com/124641487
There's more footage from other folks and lots of great photography as well.

On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 11:57 AM, wrote:

>
> There's drone video?
>
>
> On 2016-12-31 12:39, Tommaso Gomez via OBRA wrote:
>
>> Folks, I am deeply saddened to learn from Chad Sperry's post that the
>> Gorge Roubaix is no longer on the calendar for 2017. As Chad
>> explained, this is due to rising costs of permits, insurance, etc. I
>> would like to float some questions and ideas to bring this event back.
>>
>> To Chad Sperry:
>> In order for Breakaway Promotions to make a reasonable profit off this
>> race, what would the registration fees need to be for each stage of
>> the race?
>> Have you considered only putting on a single day race (maybe just
>> Mosier) in order to lower costs and maximize attendance?
>>
>> To the OBRA community:
>> How much more are you willing to pay to bring these races back?
>>
>> My take:
>> Having raced in Oregon for 2 years, I came to regard the Gorge Roubaix
>> as the crown jewel the OBRA calendar - one of a select few race venues
>> that really distinguished our racing scene from other states. The
>> drone footage from last year makes the Tour of California look like
>> some stage race in New Jersey. Maybe we could a float a survey to the
>> community to see what people are willing to pay. I don't think it's
>> unreasonable to ask a lot more than the typical $50 fee - say $80 per
>> day. I'd be interested to hear if other people feel the same way.
>> -TG
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d..@bicyclerepairman.us

2016-12-31

There's drone video?

On 2016-12-31 12:39, Tommaso Gomez via OBRA wrote:
> Folks, I am deeply saddened to learn from Chad Sperry's post that the
> Gorge Roubaix is no longer on the calendar for 2017. As Chad
> explained, this is due to rising costs of permits, insurance, etc. I
> would like to float some questions and ideas to bring this event back.
>
> To Chad Sperry:
> In order for Breakaway Promotions to make a reasonable profit off this
> race, what would the registration fees need to be for each stage of
> the race?
> Have you considered only putting on a single day race (maybe just
> Mosier) in order to lower costs and maximize attendance?
>
> To the OBRA community:
> How much more are you willing to pay to bring these races back?
>
> My take:
> Having raced in Oregon for 2 years, I came to regard the Gorge Roubaix
> as the crown jewel the OBRA calendar - one of a select few race venues
> that really distinguished our racing scene from other states. The
> drone footage from last year makes the Tour of California look like
> some stage race in New Jersey. Maybe we could a float a survey to the
> community to see what people are willing to pay. I don't think it's
> unreasonable to ask a lot more than the typical $50 fee - say $80 per
> day. I'd be interested to hear if other people feel the same way.
> -TG
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Salvatore Collura

2016-12-31

Disparaging New Jersey is not the answer. As a matter of fact, their road scene is WAY more vibrant than your's right now.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2016, at 11:39 AM, Tommaso Gomez via OBRA wrote:
>
> Folks, I am deeply saddened to learn from Chad Sperry's post that the Gorge Roubaix is no longer on the calendar for 2017. As Chad explained, this is due to rising costs of permits, insurance, etc. I would like to float some questions and ideas to bring this event back.
>
> To Chad Sperry:
> In order for Breakaway Promotions to make a reasonable profit off this race, what would the registration fees need to be for each stage of the race?
> Have you considered only putting on a single day race (maybe just Mosier) in order to lower costs and maximize attendance?
>
> To the OBRA community:
> How much more are you willing to pay to bring these races back?
>
> My take:
> Having raced in Oregon for 2 years, I came to regard the Gorge Roubaix as the crown jewel the OBRA calendar - one of a select few race venues that really distinguished our racing scene from other states. The drone footage from last year makes the Tour of California look like some stage race in New Jersey. Maybe we could a float a survey to the community to see what people are willing to pay. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask a lot more than the typical $50 fee - say $80 per day. I'd be interested to hear if other people feel the same way.
> -TG
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> obra@list.obra.org
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Tommaso Gomez

2016-12-31

Folks, I am deeply saddened to learn from Chad Sperry's post that the Gorge Roubaix is no longer on the calendar for 2017. As Chad explained, this is due to rising costs of permits, insurance, etc. I would like to float some questions and ideas to bring this event back.

To Chad Sperry:
In order for Breakaway Promotions to make a reasonable profit off this race, what would the registration fees need to be for each stage of the race?
Have you considered only putting on a single day race (maybe just Mosier) in order to lower costs and maximize attendance?

To the OBRA community:
How much more are you willing to pay to bring these races back?

My take:
Having raced in Oregon for 2 years, I came to regard the Gorge Roubaix as the crown jewel the OBRA calendar - one of a select few race venues that really distinguished our racing scene from other states. The drone footage from last year makes the Tour of California look like some stage race in New Jersey. Maybe we could a float a survey to the community to see what people are willing to pay. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask a lot more than the typical $50 fee - say $80 per day. I'd be interested to hear if other people feel the same way.
-TG