rond..@spiritone.com

and.... not only do many of us members want to see the
results..........without the knowledge that comes for doing the work
required to compile and post them.....we seem to always except them to be
available within minutes or hours. You all need to hear this from ronnie.
Many OBRA members have my highest regard for how hard you can train and push
yourself to be your best. You can at time blow me away with regard to how
giving you can be for fellow OBRA members. But one of the weaknesses that
can flourish in our group is just feeling all you need to do is be a member,
pay your entry and show up and race. Others will do everything else "you"
expect should be done. A high number of participants can just come and race
without other input than their entry, but it would make life much better if
they just loosened up some, tried to go through channels to make any
corrections and be open to accepting that it may not just work out exactly
as they want.
Be nice to each other, there are enough mean spirited people out there doing
really nasty things to each other! Racing bikes is a sport! Sport is
supposed to be enjoyable, especially for amateurs. You folks posting are
good people. You do not want to hurt others.
If you are pro....bitch some...but you also could let it go.
ron

-----Original Message-----
From: Drew Coleman via OBRA
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:37 PM
To: Bryan Smith
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] To those who want to criticize the fine work
ourOBRA officials do

What Bryan said.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 21, 2017, at 7:32 PM, Bryan Smith via OBRA
> wrote:
>
> If you have never been an official, I would ask that you avoid using this
> wide open forum to "share" your thoughts on what does or does not
> SUUUUUUUUCK regarding race results.
>
> If you have not been an official, let me just share with you that you are
> probably completely unaware of the hours and hours spent by officials
> before, during, and after races to make sure that those of us who like to
> race around in circles get results that are a n accurate reflection of
> reality.
>
> Mr. Kelly, it is unfortunate that you were listed as DNF, can I ask how
> far behind the main field you were? If you got a checkered flag, your
> race is over, the Chief referee likely mentioned it in the pre-race
> briefing.
>
> Mr. Benenate, I do not know you, but you your recent post in support of
> Mr. Kelley was passive aggressive bullshit and I am calling you on it.
> There was no need to send your rude message to all of OBRA when a simple
> reply to Mr. Kelly or the CJ in question could have served his purpose.
>
> Mr. Jeremy Russell, I think that your intention to survey the membership
> of OBRA regarding finishing times was admirable. However, your delivery
> was not. If you want a blow by blow, ask someone who was racing, it is
> not the race officials job to provide you with entertainment.
>
> Mike and Candi Murray, Melanie Rathe, Kelli Schauer, Terri Camp, Jordan
> Staples, Dan Grabski, and a devoted cadre of others including myself work
> very hard to finish every single rider in every single race. In some
> cases, the lap length or other variables make this difficult. If you have
> not yet participated in that endeavor in Oregon I would ask you to
> seriously consider becoming an official and working a few races. There is
> a significant amount of unpaid work that goes into getting your results
> out to you all and the seemingly cavalier attitude that many racers take
> regarding the results is, at times, downright insulting. It is very easy
> to fire off an email to this statewide, very public forum, about results.
> However it has been posted on every Race Result that questions be directed
> to the Chief Judge and there is a link provided on the results page to do
> so.
>
> There are no results without the officials to record them. There is a
> shortage of officials, I can assure you messages like these spread over a
> widely read forum are part of the reason.
>
> Rant over,
> Bryan Smith
> Occasional FinishLynx Camera Operator
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