Michael

Agreed!! This is discouraging. We’re cyclists! We’re better than that shit!

M.Y.

From: John Wilger via OBRA
Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 12:09 PM
To: Sherry
Cc: OBRA Chat
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bend vandalism

Wow. That is *really* disappointing.

First we have someone---potentially from the OBRA community---stealing OBRA equipment, and now we have someone---almost definitely from the OBRA community---pulling a shit move like this.

Whoever you are, in each case, you are serious assholes.

To the rest of us: if the person doesn't have the basic decency to come forward and make reparations, we should still take it on ourselves to make it right. I'd personally feel pretty embarrassed to be associated with OBRA if we end up with a reputation for bringing this kind of behavior to someone's door and not taking care of it.

On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Sherry via OBRA wrote:

It's nice to see people who had nothing to do with the vandalism, are willing to pitch in.

However, the paint on his car is scratched on every panel and the passenger side was badly keyed. There is permanent marker that won't come off.
Unfortunately, it is going to take more than a car detailing to fix. He has already tried to buff the scratches out with no success.

What really needs to happen, is the person(s) who did the damage to come forward (privately is okay), and help with the costs associated.
I'm not sure how to post a photo to this mailing list. But if anyone wants to see the damage, I have pictures I can send you. It is really bad.

Sherry

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Bill Thomas

Let's not let this discussion go the same way the incident went. Everybody please put the pitchforks and torches down. ;o)

Since the vandalism was a mob effort, no one knows the other contributors before or after their turn, and therefore no one will step up to take full responsibility. The greater OBRA community is stepping up big time, so let's take the high road, get this taken care of in the most positive way we can, then let's all stand together to stop anything like this happening again. Be vigilant and speak up if anyone sees this behavior again.

Mostly, the victim and I have spoken, and he is really touched by the good will of THIS community to make amends.

Thank you everyone for your support!

Billy

EAL

Good point, Rick.  While the best resolution is for the person(s) responsible to contact the owner and make things right without resort to the criminal justice system, I have to wonder if the possibility of criminal prosecution may bring people forward.  There were a lot of cell phone cameras in the area all day, maybe those responsible were caught in the background of some action shots.  Or maybe some witnesses with a conscience will come forward to identify some of those responsible.  In any event, I will help with a donation through Bill at Wooden Shoe.  I don't mind at all donating to OBRA, but to donate for this reason is more than a little galling.
Ed
On Friday, November 3, 2017, 12:41:35 PM PDT, Rick Johnson via OBRA wrote:


If the damage is that significant then this is a serious criminal matter:


ORS 164.354 Criminal mischief in the second degree

(1) A person commits the crime of criminal mischief in the second degree if:

(a) The person violates ORS 164.345 (Criminal mischief in the third degree), and as a result thereof, damages property in an amount exceeding $500; or

(b) Having no right to do so nor reasonable ground to believe that the person has such right, the person intentionally damages property of another, or, the person recklessly damages property of another in an amount exceeding $500.

(2) Criminal mischief in the second degree is a Class A misdemeanor. [1971 c.743 §146; 2009 c.16 §5]


The penalties for Class A misdemeanors are up to 1 year in jail (ORS 161.615) and fines up $6,250 (ORS 161.635).

However, the paint on his car is scratched on every panel and the passenger side was badly keyed. There is permanent marker that won't come off.
Unfortunately, it is going to take more than a car detailing to fix. He has already tried to buff the scratches out with no success.

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Matt - now if it was good beer, that would be excusable :) j/k. Poor form
indeed. I love the heckling, but really dislike getting touched.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxgEF-t44gc

On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Matt Ritzow via OBRA
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> He should absolutely not have to use his insurance. This person or persons
> needs to come clean. Probably one of the same jackwagons that hit my kid
> in the face with a half can of crappy beer 2 seasons ago. This crap needs
> to stop!
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>> That was done by multiple people. Maybe the fund can go to pay his
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Ron Strasser

Agreed here. Even if more than deductible is donated, he has bee taken way
out of his normal life.
ron

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Subject: [OBRA Chat] Bend vandalism

That was done by multiple people. Maybe the fund can go to pay his
comprehensive deductible
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He should absolutely not have to use his insurance. This person or persons
needs to come clean. Probably one of the same jackwagons that hit my kid
in the face with a half can of crappy beer 2 seasons ago. This crap needs
to stop!
Matt.

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> That was done by multiple people. Maybe the fund can go to pay his
> comprehensive deductible
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Rick Johnson

If the damage is that significant then this is a serious criminal
matter:

ORS 164.354 Criminal mischief in the second degree

(1) A person commits the crime of criminal mischief in the
second degree if:



(a) The person violates ORS 164.345 (Criminal mischief in the
third degree), and as a result thereof, damages property in an
amount exceeding $500; or



(b) Having no right to do so nor reasonable ground to believe
that the person has such right, the person intentionally damages
property of another, or, the person recklessly damages property
of another in an amount exceeding $500.



(2) Criminal mischief in the second degree is a Class A
misdemeanor. [1971 c.743 ��146; 2009 c.16 ��5]

The penalties for Class A misdemeanors are up to 1 year in jail
(ORS 161.615) and fines up $6,250 (ORS 161.635).

However, the paint on his car is scratched on every panel and the passenger side was badly keyed. There is permanent marker that won't come off.

Unfortunately, it is going to take more than a car detailing to fix. He has already tried to buff the scratches out with no success. 

John Wilger

Wow. That is *really* disappointing.

First we have someone---potentially from the OBRA community---stealing OBRA
equipment, and now we have someone---almost definitely from the OBRA
community---pulling a shit move like this.

Whoever you are, in each case, you are serious assholes.

To the rest of us: if the person doesn't have the basic decency to come
forward and make reparations, we should still take it on ourselves to make
it right. I'd personally feel pretty embarrassed to be associated with OBRA
if we end up with a reputation for bringing this kind of behavior to
someone's door and not taking care of it.

On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Sherry via OBRA wrote:

> It's nice to see people who had nothing to do with the vandalism, are
> willing to pitch in.
>
> However, the paint on his car is scratched on every panel and the
> passenger side was badly keyed. There is permanent marker that won't come
> off.
> Unfortunately, it is going to take more than a car detailing to fix. He
> has already tried to buff the scratches out with no success.
>
> What really needs to happen, is the person(s) who did the damage to come
> forward (privately is okay), and help with the costs associated.
> I'm not sure how to post a photo to this mailing list. But if anyone wants
> to see the damage, I have pictures I can send you. It is really bad.
>
> Sherry
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Billy Thomas

That was done by multiple people. Maybe the fund can go to pay his comprehensive deductible

Sherry

It's nice to see people who had nothing to do with the vandalism, are willing to pitch in.

However, the paint on his car is scratched on every panel and the passenger side was badly keyed. There is permanent marker that won't come off.
Unfortunately, it is going to take more than a car detailing to fix. He has already tried to buff the scratches out with no success.

What really needs to happen, is the person(s) who did the damage to come forward (privately is okay), and help with the costs associated.
I'm not sure how to post a photo to this mailing list. But if anyone wants to see the damage, I have pictures I can send you. It is really bad.

Sherry

Bill Thomas

I will be passing the hat this weekend to fund a full detail of the car. Look for Billy at the Deschutes Team tent area if you want to contribute. Any moneys in excess of the detail (& a pint or 2) will go to junior development to help get our Oregon based younglings to Reno.

Chris Valencia

Sorry to hear this happened. If no one steps up and takes accountability
for their actions, I will give some money towards getting the car detailed.

Chris with the mohawk

Boneyard Cycling

On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Bill Thomas via OBRA
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> There were multiple contributors, in a mob mentality scenario. No excuse.
> And I'm willing to take up a collection to get his car detailed.
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Bill Thomas

There were multiple contributors, in a mob mentality scenario. No excuse. And I'm willing to take up a collection to get his car detailed.

Billy

Ron Strasser

Sorry to hear this happened. Deschutes Brewery is the keystone to the
wonderful course and atmosphere of the two days in Bend. The employees are
what make up Deschutes Brewery. The person(s) responsible would do much
good for all if they step forward and make amends. In my opinion it need
not be public. Just come forward and make it right for the employee and all
the rest who have been impacted by your actions.
ron s.

-----Original Message-----
From: Cross Crusade via OBRA
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2017 8:37 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Bend vandalism

DEAR OBRA MEMBERS and CYCLOCROSS COMMUNITY,

The Cyclocross Crusade is founded on the premise that bike racing can bring
together ALL people creating a unique and welcoming community based in fun
and respectful competition.
Most importantly, we are building a special camaraderie that enriches us
all.

However on Sunday, as we reveled in our competitive creativity, a member(s)
of our community failed to uphold this simple, foundational value.

A vehicle that was parked near the PIT was vandalized.
This car is owned by a Deschutes Brewery employee - a person who has worked
tirelessly over the years to support our event.

We ask that the person(s) who vandalized the car come forward, admit to the
act, and make reparations.

Yours,

The Cyclocross Crusade
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Bill Thomas

I saw this fairly early and lectured anyone near there that would listen. If I had any windex, I would have cleaned it up before he ever saw it. (I checked my car, but no luck) Just because someone's actions might seem rude, does not give another the right to deface or vandalize the other person's property. None of the persons involved in the "messaging" knew who's car it was, whether it had been there all night, or if they had permission to be there. Also it could have been a newbie to the sport, who would then be unmotivated to be a part of Cross ever again. Additionally, I didn't think the parking job was so egregious. Stupid, yes, with hundreds of people and bikes passing through the narrow paths he left, but he wasn't blocking anyone in or creating an unsafe condition.

Anyone want to chip in for a clean & detail of this guy's ride?

Billy

Cross Crusade

DEAR OBRA MEMBERS and CYCLOCROSS COMMUNITY,

The Cyclocross Crusade is founded on the premise that bike racing can bring together ALL people creating a unique and welcoming community based in fun and respectful competition.
Most importantly, we are building a special camaraderie that enriches us all.

However on Sunday, as we reveled in our competitive creativity, a member(s) of our community failed to uphold this simple, foundational value.

A vehicle that was parked near the PIT was vandalized.
This car is owned by a Deschutes Brewery employee - a person who has worked tirelessly over the years to support our event.

We ask that the person(s) who vandalized the car come forward, admit to the act, and make reparations.

Yours,

The Cyclocross Crusade