Could we get an official update on Piece of Cake 4/5? Nullified? Not?

Jim Middaugh

2018-04-01

Thank you OBRA/promoter for any official info.

> On Apr 1, 2018, at 8:01 AM, John Wilger via OBRA wrote:
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> Yeah, I had similar thoughts about the 5s needing their own field for road races. Plus it would have made the field smaller for the 5s, which I understand a promoter not loving, but when your talking about new racers(especially early in the season) that makes a big difference for safety; less fighting for the same patch of road, and easier for officials to keep an eye on everyone.
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> The promotor could easily make a change for the rest of this series to have the fields be senior 5s and senior 3/4s. It wouldn't even affect any series standings, since the 4/5 race was entirely nullified. The 4s would just only be able to earn points in the final two races of the series.
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> So I wonder: any chance that we could see a change in the fields for the next couple of races in this series? If not, I think I’m going to pass on them. (Which makes me really sad; I think these are otherwise great races in general, and I really, really want to support them.)
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>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 4:48 PM Brad Davidson via OBRA wrote:
>> Or just split the open fields at 3/4 and 5 like many other events do. This is the second year in a row that we've had:
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>> * A crash in the final sprint
>> * Early race crashes due to wheel contact when the pack yo-yos on a climb or corner
>> * Riders failing to respect the centerline rule
>> * Riders forced off the right side of the road
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>> This is all novice-level stuff. I get it, winter is long and we're all excited to drop some watts in the sun again... but it seems like some folks might need a little more time on a fast-paced group ride, or out on the tarmac at PIR, before they're ready to handle their bike at full speed.
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>> Maybe there are other solutions than changing the split, but IMO there's a huge difference between the bottom of 5 and the top of 4. Putting them together this early in the season is just asking for trouble.
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>> I love Piece of Cake, but I won't race this event in this field again. I'll take a self-upgrade to 3 and gladly spend the rest of the year sucking wind at the back of the pack if that's what it takes to get me out.
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>> -Brad
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>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018, 15:44 John Wilger wrote:
>>> It was literally the most dangerous race I’ve ever been in. And the whole field (I hear) is being nullified. And rightly so.
>>>
>>> Literally begging the promoter to do a senior 3/4 field. Or do Masters as 35+. Please? Some of us need to be able to go to work next week. :-D
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>>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 3:32 PM Brandon Davidson via OBRA wrote:
>>>> Not calling any one individual out, there was a lot of embarrassing stuff goin on out there. Just gonna leave this here for y'all:
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>>>> https://youtu.be/18x-7inBrmw
>>>>
>>>> -Brad
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