Bid Farewell to another Washington County Road

Marc San Soucie

2003-07-24



Here's the message I sent to LUTOPS this evening. I copied my county

commissioner (John Leeper), plus Dick Schouten, a longtime cycling activist,

and the county chair Tom Brian.



Hi:



Your own web site includes this bit of text:



    Litter is dangerous! Many Washington County roads lack sidewalks so

pedestrians and cyclists

    must travel along the shoulder. Broken glass and other debris can be

hazardous to their health.



Given this advisory, how do you justify chip-sealing a substantial length of

one of the county roads most frequently used by cyclists? Chip-sealing is

tragically hazardous for cyclists. It makes the already narrow shoulder of

the road unusable, and makes travel anywhere but in the right-wheel-rut of

the travel lane dangerous. This forces cyclists further into the travel lane

than they would ordinarily ride, increasing the possibility of dangerous

interaction with careless or uncaring motorists. To a cyclist, chip-seal is

dangerous litter on a massive scale.



There must be a reasonably economical way of maintaining roads such as West

Union without putting cyclists into more danger than they already face on

shared 55-MPH roads such as this. Please consider changing operations policy

to avoid chip-seal on roads without safe bike lanes or wide shoulders. And

please hurry to sweep unsettled gravel off West Union as soon as possible.



Thank you,



    Marc San Soucie - frequent cycling user of West Union Rd.

    4230 NW 147th Ave.

    Portland 97229





----- Original Message -----

From: "Marc San Soucie" <ma-@sansoucie.com>

To: "'OBRA list'" <ob-@topica.com>; "Lst-TriClub.NRC.WHQ"

<Lst-TriClu-@nike.com>

Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:49 PM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bid Farewell to another Washington County Road





 Use of chip seal - and the appallingly large-grained variant used at Hagg

Lake - are policy choices that could be subject to influence from a

substantial number of complainants. It's not trivial to change policy,

because a lot of policy is based on economic expediency. But nothing takes

a

 hard-working public servant aback quite as much as vocal resistance to

their

 casually expedient ideas. Speak up about your displeasure - not to OBRA or

to each other, but to Greg Clemmons, head of operations at Wash Co, and to

the Wash Co board of commissioners. They're the ones who need to hear that

chip-seal is tragic for cyclists. They probably haven't considered its

impact, or don't realize its magnitude. Let them know you're bothered.

Silence is assent. E-Mail to: lut-@co.washington.or.us.



     Marc San Soucie





Washington County

Land Use and Transportation Department

Operations & Maintenance Services Division

1400 SW Walnut Street

Hillsboro, OR 97123-5625



Phone: (503) 846-7623

Fax: (503) 846-7620

E-Mail to: lut-@co.washington.or.us



www.co.washington.or.us







----- Original Message -----

From: "Shapiro, Kendall" <kendall.-@nike.com>

To: "Lst-Bike.Logievelo" <Lst-Bike.-@nike.com>; "'OBRA list'"

<ob-@topica.com>; "Lst-TriClub.NRC.WHQ" <Lst-TriClu-@nike.com>

Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:06 PM

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Bid Farewell to another Washington County Road





 Alas yet another wonderful Washington County Road falls prey to Oregon's

Dept Of Transportation.



Today West Union Road was Chip sealed from Helvatia Road out to North

Plains. Don't plan on getting any decent riding on this road for quite

some

 time.(IE years) The high temps lately will cause a longer than normal

time

 for the tar to set. There will be a period of time(weeks) that gravel

will

  be strewn all over the road so beware.



Join me in a moment of silence to bid farewell to this great conduit to

backroad riding.........



In case you don't know what Chip Sealing is..........well is is a cheap

way

 to extend the life of a road by laying down tat and then spreading out

gravel on top. the gravel sticks to the tar and voila you have a rough

road

 that will last a bit longer. The unfortunate part is that West Union

was

  one of the smoothest roads around to ride on:(



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Marc San Soucie

2003-07-23



Use of chip seal - and the appallingly large-grained variant used at Hagg

Lake - are policy choices that could be subject to influence from a

substantial number of complainants. It's not trivial to change policy,

because a lot of policy is based on economic expediency. But nothing takes a

hard-working public servant aback quite as much as vocal resistance to their

casually expedient ideas. Speak up about your displeasure - not to OBRA or

to each other, but to Greg Clemmons, head of operations at Wash Co, and to

the Wash Co board of commissioners. They're the ones who need to hear that

chip-seal is tragic for cyclists. They probably haven't considered its

impact, or don't realize its magnitude. Let them know you're bothered.

Silence is assent. E-Mail to: lut-@co.washington.or.us.



    Marc San Soucie





Washington County

Land Use and Transportation Department

Operations & Maintenance Services Division

1400 SW Walnut Street

Hillsboro, OR 97123-5625



Phone: (503) 846-7623

Fax: (503) 846-7620

E-Mail to: lut-@co.washington.or.us



www.co.washington.or.us







----- Original Message -----

From: "Shapiro, Kendall" <kendall.-@nike.com>

To: "Lst-Bike.Logievelo" <Lst-Bike.-@nike.com>; "'OBRA list'"

<ob-@topica.com>; "Lst-TriClub.NRC.WHQ" <Lst-TriClu-@nike.com>

Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:06 PM

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Bid Farewell to another Washington County Road





 Alas yet another wonderful Washington County Road falls prey to Oregon's

Dept Of Transportation.



Today West Union Road was Chip sealed from Helvatia Road out to North

Plains. Don't plan on getting any decent riding on this road for quite

some

 time.(IE years) The high temps lately will cause a longer than normal

time

 for the tar to set. There will be a period of time(weeks) that gravel will

be strewn all over the road so beware.



Join me in a moment of silence to bid farewell to this great conduit to

backroad riding.........



In case you don't know what Chip Sealing is..........well is is a cheap

way

 to extend the life of a road by laying down tat and then spreading out

gravel on top. the gravel sticks to the tar and voila you have a rough

road

 that will last a bit longer. The unfortunate part is that West Union was

one of the smoothest roads around to ride on:(



To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.

To respond to the list manager send to ob-@teleport.com

To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com



Shapiro, Kendall

2003-07-23



Alas yet another wonderful Washington County Road falls prey to Oregon's

Dept Of Transportation.



Today West Union Road was Chip sealed from Helvatia Road out to North

Plains. Don't plan on getting any decent riding on this road for quite some

time.(IE years) The high temps lately will cause a longer than normal time

for the tar to set. There will be a period of time(weeks) that gravel will

be strewn all over the road so beware.



Join me in a moment of silence to bid farewell to this great conduit to

backroad riding.........



In case you don't know what Chip Sealing is..........well is is a cheap way

to extend the life of a road by laying down tat and then spreading out

gravel on top. the gravel sticks to the tar and voila you have a rough road

that will last a bit longer. The unfortunate part is that West Union was

one of the smoothest roads around to ride on:(