Re: Portland area road conditions: the gravel!

Dan H.

2004-01-19



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Keith, two words: Specialized Armadllos.

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From: Keith A. Prior

To: obra

Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 11:03 AM

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Portland area road conditions: the gravel!





Going to open up the discussion here regarding the state of the very roads we commute and train on.

I went out in my car this weekend and surveyed my usual training routes and 90% of them have the bike

lane or shoulder area where we travel completely covered in that dreaded gravel. I have heard that the city plans to

have it all swept up in time but if it does not interfere with motor vehicle traffic and only endangers cyclists in

their little bike lanes they might not make it a priority. I wonder...will the 13 or so mile stretch of Marine drive even be considered?

Will all of Rt 30 to St Helens get a sweep?



I have only been living in Portland since 98 and riding a bike less than that so I don't know what it was like the

last time we had the snow and ice and gravel. (Was there a last time) How long did it take them to get it cleaned up or

was it just a matter of many trashed tires and rain washing it away. Also...is there a way we could all write letters or make

phone calls to the city to get our bike lanes and shoulders cleared up. Of course I could be acting too soon and should just cut our wonderful

city some slack and give them at least a few weeks to get organized and get it cleared up.



Thanks All,



Keith Prior

Los Ciclistas

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keith, two words: Specialized

Armadllos.</FONT></DIV>

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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>

<DIV

style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>

<A title=t-@ix.netcom.com href="mailto:toka-@ix.netcom.com">Keith A.

Prior</A> </DIV>

<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title-@topica.com

href="mailto:ob-@topica.com">obra</A> </DIV>

<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 19, 2004 11:03

AM</DIV>

<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [OBRA Chat] Portland area road

conditions: the gravel!</DIV>

<DIV><BR></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT

size=2>G<SPAN class=937075118-19012004>oing to open up the discussion here

regarding the state of the very roads we commute and train

on.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT

size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>I went out in my car this weekend and

surveyed my usual training routes and 90% of them have the

bike</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT

size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>lane or shoulder area where we travel

completely covered in that dreaded gravel. I have heard that the city plans to

</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT

size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>have it all swept up <EM>in time</EM>

but if it does not interfere with motor vehicle traffic and only endangers

cyclists in </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT

size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>their little bike lanes they might not

make it a priority. I wonder...will the 13 or so mile stretch of Marine

drive even be considered?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT

size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>Will all of Rt 30 to St Helens get a

sweep? </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT

size=2><SPAN

class=937075118-19012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT

size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>I have only been living in Portland

since 98 and riding a bike less than that so I don't know what it was like the

</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT

size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>last time we had the snow and ice and

gravel. (Was there a last time) How long did it take them to get it cleaned up

or</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT

size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>was it just a matter of many

trashed tires and rain washing it away. Also...is there a way we could

</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT

face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>all

write letters or make</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT

size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>phone calls to the city to get our bike

lanes and shoulders cleared up. Of course I could be acting too soon and

should just cut our wonderful</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT

size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>city some slack and give them at least a

few weeks to get organized and get it cleared

up.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT

size=2><SPAN

class=937075118-19012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT

size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>Thanks

All,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT

size=2><SPAN

class=937075118-19012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT

size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>Keith

Prior</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT

size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>Los

Ciclistas</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV><PRE>To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.

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