Re: Portland area road conditions: the gravel!



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Keith , I rode all last week out in Washington Co , and the roads and

bike lanes seemed pretty damm clean to me , so maybe you get some riding

in over here





Dan H. wrote:



 Keith, two words: Specialized Armadllos.



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     *From:* Keith A. Prior <mailto:toka-@ix.netcom.com>

     *To:* obra <mailto:ob-@topica.com>

     *Sent:* Monday, January 19, 2004 11:03 AM

     *Subject:* [OBRA Chat] Portland area road conditions: the gravel!



     Going to open up the discussion here regarding the state of the

     very roads we commute and train on.

     I went out in my car this weekend and surveyed my usual training

     routes and 90% of them have the bike

     lane or shoulder area where we travel completely covered in that

     dreaded gravel. I have heard that the city plans to

     have it all swept up /in time/ but if it does not interfere with

     motor vehicle traffic and only endangers cyclists in

     their little bike lanes they might not make it a priority. I

     wonder...will the 13 or so mile stretch of Marine drive even be

     considered?

     Will all of Rt 30 to St Helens get a sweep?

      

     I have only been living in Portland since 98 and riding a bike

     less than that so I don't know what it was like the

     last time we had the snow and ice and gravel. (Was there a last

     time) How long did it take them to get it cleaned up or

     was it just a matter of many trashed tires and rain washing it

     away. Also...is there a way we could all write letters or make

     phone calls to the city to get our bike lanes and shoulders

     cleared up. Of course I could be acting too soon and should just

     cut our wonderful

     city some slack and give them at least a few weeks to get

     organized and get it cleared up.

      

     Thanks All,

      

     Keith Prior

     Los Ciclistas



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Keith , I rode all last week out in Washington Co , and the roads and

bike lanes seemed pretty damm clean to me , so maybe you get some

riding in over here <br>

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Dan H. wrote:<br>

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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Keith, two words: Specialized

Armadllos.</font></div>

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[OBRA Chat] Portland area road conditions: the gravel!</div>

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    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font

color="#0000ff"><font size="2">G<span class="937075118-19012004">oing

to open up the discussion here regarding the state of the very roads we

commute and train on.</span></font></font></font></span></div>

    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font

color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">I went

out in my car this weekend and surveyed my usual training routes and

90% of them have the bike</span></font></font></font></span></div>

    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font

color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">lane

or shoulder area where we travel completely covered in that dreaded

gravel. I have heard that the city plans to </span></font></font></font></span></div>

    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font

color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">have

it all swept up <em>in time</em> but if it does not interfere with

motor vehicle traffic and only endangers cyclists in </span></font></font></font></span></div>

    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font

color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">their

little bike lanes they might not make it a priority. I wonder...will

the 13 or so mile stretch of Marine drive even be considered?</span></font></font></font></span></div>

    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font

color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">Will

all of Rt 30 to St Helens get a sweep? </span></font></font></font></span></div>

    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font

color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004"></span></font></font></font></span> </div>

    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font

color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">I have

only been living in Portland since 98 and riding a bike less than that

so I don't know what it was like the </span></font></font></font></span></div>

    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font

color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">last

time we had the snow and ice and gravel. (Was there a last time) How

long did it take them to get it cleaned up or</span></font></font></font></span></div>

    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font

color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">was it

just a matter of many trashed tires and rain washing it away. Also...is

there a way we could </span></font></font></font></span><span

class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font

size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">all write letters or make</span></font></font></font></span></div>

    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font

color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">phone

calls to the city to get our bike lanes and shoulders cleared up. Of

course I could be acting too soon and should just cut our wonderful</span></font></font></font></span></div>

    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font

color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">city

some slack and give them at least a few weeks to get organized and get

it cleared up.</span></font></font></font></span></div>

    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font

color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004"></span></font></font></font></span> </div>

    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font

color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">Thanks

All,</span></font></font></font></span></div>

    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font

color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004"></span></font></font></font></span> </div>

    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font

color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">Keith

Prior</span></font></font></font></span></div>

    <div><span class="937075118-19012004"><font face="Arial"><font

color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span class="937075118-19012004">Los

Ciclistas</span></font></font></font></span></div>

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