Pat Sagers
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In Bend, we get to ride on ground up lava rock mixed with melting ice. The
way we deal with it is to go skiing, usually skate skiing, until it's
better. Others train indoors till the weekend and then drive to the
outskirts of town to begin the ride. I use some really wide ugly tires,
fendors and a mirror. I'm watching the mirror constantly for every
opportunity to move out into the road where all the rock has been pushed
away. I notice a lot of folks here use their older second bike or a
cyclocross bike to train on. It's usually only bad for 2-3 months.
Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith A. Prior [mailto:toka-@ix.netcom.com]
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 11:03 AM
To: obra
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Portland area road conditions: the gravel!
Going to open up the discussion here regarding the state of the very roads
we commute and train on.
I went out in my car this weekend and surveyed my usual training routes and
90% of them have the bike
lane or shoulder area where we travel completely covered in that dreaded
gravel. I have heard that the city plans to
have it all swept up in time but if it does not interfere with motor vehicle
traffic and only endangers cyclists in
their little bike lanes they might not make it a priority. I wonder...will
the 13 or so mile stretch of Marine drive even be considered?
Will all of Rt 30 to St Helens get a sweep?
I have only been living in Portland since 98 and riding a bike less than
that so I don't know what it was like the
last time we had the snow and ice and gravel. (Was there a last time) How
long did it take them to get it cleaned up or
was it just a matter of many trashed tires and rain washing it away.
Also...is there a way we could all write letters or make
phone calls to the city to get our bike lanes and shoulders cleared up. Of
course I could be acting too soon and should just cut our wonderful
city some slack and give them at least a few weeks to get organized and get
it cleared up.
Thanks All,
Keith Prior
Los Ciclistas
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=447222917-20012004>In
Bend, we get to ride on ground up lava rock mixed with melting ice. The
way we deal with it is to go skiing, usually skate skiing, until it's
better. Others train indoors till the weekend and then drive to the
outskirts of town to begin the ride. I use some really wide ugly
tires, fendors and a mirror. I'm watching the mirror constantly for every
opportunity to move out into the road where all the rock has been pushed
away. I notice a lot of folks here use their older second bike or a
cyclocross bike to train on. It's usually only bad for 2-3
months.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=447222917-20012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=447222917-20012004>Pat</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Keith A. Prior
[mailto:toka-@ix.netcom.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 19, 2004 11:03
AM<BR><B>To:</B> obra<BR><B>Subject:</B> [OBRA Chat] Portland area road
conditions: the gravel!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2>G<SPAN class=937075118-19012004>oing to open up the discussion here
regarding the state of the very roads we commute and train
on.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>I went out in my car this weekend and
surveyed my usual training routes and 90% of them have the
bike</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>lane or shoulder area where we travel
completely covered in that dreaded gravel. I have heard that the city plans to
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>have it all swept up <EM>in time</EM>
but if it does not interfere with motor vehicle traffic and only endangers
cyclists in </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>their little bike lanes they might not
make it a priority. I wonder...will the 13 or so mile stretch of Marine
drive even be considered?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>Will all of Rt 30 to St Helens get a
sweep? </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2><SPAN
class=937075118-19012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>I have only been living in Portland
since 98 and riding a bike less than that so I don't know what it was like the
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>last time we had the snow and ice and
gravel. (Was there a last time) How long did it take them to get it cleaned up
or</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>was it just a matter of many
trashed tires and rain washing it away. Also...is there a way we could
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>all
write letters or make</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>phone calls to the city to get our bike
lanes and shoulders cleared up. Of course I could be acting too soon and
should just cut our wonderful</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>city some slack and give them at least a
few weeks to get organized and get it cleared
up.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2><SPAN
class=937075118-19012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>Thanks
All,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2><SPAN
class=937075118-19012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>Keith
Prior</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=937075118-19012004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=937075118-19012004>Los
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