RE: Those mysterious dark lines...

Keith A. Prior

2004-02-11



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Oh yea! I saw those lines all the way up Lovejoy/Cornell this morning. When

David mentioned that "cross between vinegar and gasoline" I knew that it was

antifreeze/deicer. I use to work at the UPS air hub in Newark, NJ and they

would spray that crap all over the wings of the aircraft and also all over

the ramp where we walked. One morning I got 'misted' by the guys spraying

down a 767 and BOY did that stuff stink. It just so happens that I HATE the

smell of vinegar so my once nice Danish army jacket stunk for a month!



My story,



K

-----Original Message-----

From: Eric Hopper [mailto:ehop-@depaulindustries.com]

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 1:28 PM

To: 'Dav-@Hevanet.com'

Cc: ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Those mysterious dark lines...





My guess is that is "magnesium chloride with corrosion inhibitors"

referenced in this story:



http://www.odot.state.or.us/region4/redesign/winterstory_deicers.htm



I agree that it is very slick for bikes. I had trouble getting traction

going UP Germantown Road in several spots today. In my opinion it is way

over used.

    -----Original Message-----

    From: David. Auker. [mailto:Dav-@Hevanet.com]

    Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 10:00 PM

    To: Backseat MailBox

    Cc: ob-@topica.com

    Subject: [OBRA Chat] Those mysterious dark lines...





    What's with the smelly sprayed-on lines of "anti-freeze" on some of

Portland's roads? Today, cycling on Skyline, I got kind of nauseous

breathing deeply mile after mile this cross between vinegar and gasoline

smell. I'm also wondering how good it really is for tires gripping on the

road, as last year on a steep descent out by Bull Run, the road was wet and

also looked to have an overdose of this stuff; it was really slippery, and

we're not talking ice. I wonder what the manufacturers cautionary statement

reads like..."use in well-ventilated area, don't spray on plants?"



    David Auker

    SW Portland









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<DIV><SPAN class=358054121-11022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Oh

yea! I saw those lines all the way up Lovejoy/Cornell this morning. When

David mentioned that "cross between vinegar and gasoline" I knew that it was

antifreeze/deicer. I use to work at the UPS air hub in Newark, NJ

</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=358054121-11022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff

size=2>and they would spray that crap all over the wings of the aircraft and

also all over the ramp where we walked. One morning I got 'misted' by the guys

spraying down a 767 and BOY did that stuff stink. It just so happens

</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=358054121-11022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff

size=2>that I HATE the smell of vinegar so my once nice Danish army jacket stunk

for a month!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=358054121-11022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff

size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=358054121-11022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>My

story,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=358054121-11022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff

size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=358054121-11022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff

size=2>K</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV>

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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma

size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Eric Hopper

[mailto:ehop-@depaulindustries.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 11,

2004 1:28 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Dav-@Hevanet.com'<BR><B>Cc:</B>

ob-@topica.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [OBRA Chat] Those mysterious dark

lines...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=554122421-11022004>My

guess is that is "<FONT color=#000000>magnesium chloride with corrosion

inhibitors" referenced in this story:</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN

class=554122421-11022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=554122421-11022004><A

href="http://www.odot.state.or.us/region4/redesign/winterstory_deicers.htm">http://www.odot.state.or.us/region4/redesign/winterstory_deicers.htm</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN

class=554122421-11022004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=554122421-11022004>I

agree that it is very slick for bikes.  I had trouble getting

traction going UP Germantown Road in several spots today.  In my opinion

it is way over used.  </SPAN></FONT></DIV>

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    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> David. Auker.

    [mailto:Dav-@Hevanet.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 10, 2004 10:00

    PM<BR><B>To:</B> Backseat MailBox<BR><B>Cc:</B>

    ob-@topica.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [OBRA Chat] Those mysterious dark

    lines...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>

    <DIV><FONT face=Garamond size=4>What's with the smelly sprayed-on lines of

    "anti-freeze" on some of Portland's roads?  Today, cycling on

    Skyline, I got kind of nauseous breathing deeply mile after mile this

    cross between vinegar and gasoline smell.  I'm also wondering how good

    it really is for tires gripping on the road, as last year on a steep descent

    out by Bull Run, the road was wet and also looked to have an overdose of

    this stuff; it was really slippery, and we're not talking ice.  I

    wonder what the manufacturers cautionary statement reads like..."use in

    well-ventilated area, don't spray on plants?"</FONT></DIV>

    <DIV><FONT face=Garamond size=4></FONT> </DIV>

    <DIV><FONT face=Garamond size=4>David Auker</FONT></DIV>

    <DIV><FONT face=Garamond size=4>SW Portland</FONT></DIV>

    <DIV><FONT face=Garamond size=4></FONT> </DIV>

    <DIV><FONT face=Garamond size=4></FONT> </DIV>

    <DIV><FONT face=Garamond size=4></FONT> </DIV>

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