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mike.m-@obra.org

2004-02-12

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They all have blue rims so they should be more identifiable. We will get

them all labeled.

Mike Murray

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From: hutchsraceteam [mailto:hutchsr-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 15:00 PM

To: cmur-@obra.org; obra

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OBRA starts New Wheel Program

I think this is a great idea!!! No were else that I know of in the country

has such a program. I will gladly put a dollar in even if Campy is not

supported. At least there will be a front wheel I could use.

I have one suggestion though. Please make these wheels uglier then hell so

no one walks away with them. That always seem to be a problem at race.

Shimano and Mavic are always hunting down riders after races to get their

wheels back.

AP - Avocet Paul

Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn <cmur-@obra.org> wrote:

Currently they are all Shimano 9 speeds, we will need to work out all the

logistics and see how the program goes before we add in all the other

combinations

candi

-----Original Message-----

From: MARTEL,MATT (HP-Corvallis,ex1) [mailto:matt_m-@hp.com]

Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:08 PM

To: 'cmur-@obra.org'; obra

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OBRA starts New Wheel Program

This is a great idea! $1 is well worth it. Would it be possible to put a

10

speed cassette on a couple of these neutral wheels?

Matt

-----Original Message-----

From: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn [mailto:cmur-@obra.org]

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 4:55 PM

To: obra

Subject: [OBRA Chat] OBRA starts New Wheel Program

Every year we ask members to come up with ideas on how we can make racing

in

Oregon better. In 2002 we came up with the idea of doing away with the

free

newspaper and instead have been combining race flyers and mailing them

direct to members. I just got mine Monday and how nice it is to have 8

races on 1 piece of paper - thanks to Ed Garfield for coming up with this

one.

Last year an idea was proposed by Brad Ross. Why doesn't OBRA buy wheels

and

they can be used at road events as neutral wheels instead of soliciting

riders to donate to the cause. So we bought 15 sets of Mavic wheels. Yes

30 wheels total. Roger Banvard of Newport volunteered to true them, check

for defects and keep them in good condition.They are available to all road

races. The problem is that we have not come up with a clear cut way to

reimburse OBRA for the expense - a way for the program to pay for itself.

Earlier this month I propposed to the board that we come up with a fee

structure to pay for them. Like have the race organizer come up with an

extra $100-$200 to cover the costs. Well it is a new program and most of

the race organizers cannot come up with that out of their meager budgets.

So

now I have another proposal.

Why don't we set out a jar for donations. If each rider put in $1 that

would more then cover the program and give Roger gas money back and forth

from Newport. So what do you all think? Is putting $1 in the kitty worth

not donating your wheels each week?

Candi

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all have blue rims so they should be more identifiable. We will get them

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Mike Murray 

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<DIV>I think this is a great idea!!! No were else that I know of in the

country has such a program. I will gladly put a dollar in even if

Campy is not supported. At least there will be a front wheel I could

use.</DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV>I have one suggestion though. Please make these wheels uglier then

hell so no one walks away with them. That always seem to be a problem at

race. Shimano and Mavic are always hunting down riders after races to get

their wheels back.</DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV>AP - Avocet Paul Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn

<cmur-@obra.org> wrote:</DIV>

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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Currently

they are all Shimano 9 speeds, we will need to work out all the logistics

and see how the program goes before we add in all the

other combinations candi -----Original

Message----- From: MARTEL,MATT (HP-Corvallis,ex1)

[mailto:matt_m-@hp.com] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:08

PM To: 'cmur-@obra.org'; obra Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OBRA starts New

Wheel Program This is a great idea! $1 is well worth it. Would it

be possible to put a 10 speed cassette on a couple of these neutral

wheels? Matt -----Original Message----- From: Candi

Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn [mailto:cmur-@obra.org] Sent:

Wednesday, February 11, 2004 4:55 PM To: obra Subject: [OBRA Chat] OBRA

starts New Wheel Program Every year we ask members to come up with

ideas on how we can make racing in Oregon better. In 2002 we came up with

the idea of doing away with the free newspaper and instead have been

combining race flyers and mailing them direct to members. I just got mine

Monday and how nice it is to have 8 races on 1 piece of paper - thanks to

Ed Garfield for coming up with this one. Last year an idea was

proposed by Brad Ross. Why doesn't OBRA buy wheels and they can be used at

road events as neutral wheels instead of soliciting riders to donate to the

cause. So we bought 15 sets of Mavic wheels. Yes 30 wheels total. Roger

Banvard of Newport volunteered to true them, check for defects and keep

them in good condition.They are available to all road races. The problem is

that we have not come up with a clear cut way to reimburse OBRA for the

expense - a way for the program to pay for itself. Earlier this month I

propposed to the board that we come up with a fee structure to pay for

them. Like have the race organizer come up with an extra $100-$200 to cover

the costs. Well it is a new program and most of the race organizers cannot

come up with that out of their meager budgets. So now I have another

proposal. Why don't we set out a jar for donations. If each rider put

in $1 that would more then cover the program and give Roger gas money back

and forth from Newport. So what do you all think? Is putting $1 in the

kitty worth not donating your wheels each week? Candi To

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shane.-@comcast.net

2004-02-12

At a dollar, those riders that only do a road race or two, they won't mind chipping in, but $10 may get less donations...

I think if we put hokey spokes on then, that at least we will be able to see who is taking off with them... Ha!

I think one dollar is hardly worth the effort. 10 is a much more

appropriate starting point.

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eri-@fusium.com

2004-02-12

I think one dollar is hardly worth the effort. 10 is a much more

appropriate starting point.

Peter Murphy

2004-02-12

Some pink paint would make them easy to see and harder to walk off with.

You'll get my dollar at the Jack Frost TT

Pete Murphy

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Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OBRA starts New Wheel Program

Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 15:00:09 -0800 (PST)

I think this is a great idea!!! No were else that I know of in the country

has such a program. I will gladly put a dollar in even if Campy is not

supported. At least there will be a front wheel I could use.

I have one suggestion though. Please make these wheels uglier then hell so

no one walks away with them. That always seem to be a problem at race.

Shimano and Mavic are always hunting down riders after races to get their

wheels back.

AP - Avocet Paul

Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn <cmur-@obra.org> wrote:

Currently they are all Shimano 9 speeds, we will need to work out all the

logistics and see how the program goes before we add in all the other

combinations

candi

-----Original Message-----

From: MARTEL,MATT (HP-Corvallis,ex1) [mailto:matt_m-@hp.com]

Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:08 PM

To: 'cmur-@obra.org'; obra

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OBRA starts New Wheel Program

This is a great idea! $1 is well worth it. Would it be possible to put a 10

speed cassette on a couple of these neutral wheels?

Matt

-----Original Message-----

From: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn [mailto:cmur-@obra.org]

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 4:55 PM

To: obra

Subject: [OBRA Chat] OBRA starts New Wheel Program

Every year we ask members to come up with ideas on how we can make racing

in

Oregon better. In 2002 we came up with the idea of doing away with the free

newspaper and instead have been combining race flyers and mailing them

direct to members. I just got mine Monday and how nice it is to have 8

races on 1 piece of paper - thanks to Ed Garfield for coming up with this

one.

Last year an idea was proposed by Brad Ross. Why doesn't OBRA buy wheels

and

they can be used at road events as neutral wheels instead of soliciting

riders to donate to the cause. So we bought 15 sets of Mavic wheels. Yes

30 wheels total. Roger Banvard of Newport volunteered to true them, check

for defects and keep them in good condition.They are available to all road

races. The problem is that we have not come up with a clear cut way to

reimburse OBRA for the expense - a way for the program to pay for itself.

Earlier this month I propposed to the board that we come up with a fee

structure to pay for them. Like have the race organizer come up with an

extra $100-$200 to cover the costs. Well it is a new program and most of

the race organizers cannot come up with that out of their meager budgets.

So

now I have another proposal.

Why don't we set out a jar for donations. If each rider put in $1 that

would more then cover the program and give Roger gas money back and forth

from Newport. So what do you all think? Is putting $1 in the kitty worth

not donating your wheels each week?

Candi

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I think this is a great idea!!! No were else that I know of in the country has such a program. I will gladly put a dollar in even if Campy is not supported. At least there will be a front wheel I could use.

I have one suggestion though. Please make these wheels uglier then hell so no one walks away with them. That always seem to be a problem at race. Shimano and Mavic are always hunting down riders after races to get their wheels back.

AP - Avocet Paul

Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn <cmur-@obra.org> wrote:

Currently they are all Shimano 9 speeds, we will need to work out all the

logistics and see how the program goes before we add in all the other

combinations

candi

-----Original Message-----

From: MARTEL,MATT (HP-Corvallis,ex1) [mailto:matt_m-@hp.com]

Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:08 PM

To: 'cmur-@obra.org'; obra

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OBRA starts New Wheel Program

This is a great idea! $1 is well worth it. Would it be possible to put a 10

speed cassette on a couple of these neutral wheels?

Matt

-----Original Message-----

From: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn [mailto:cmur-@obra.org]

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 4:55 PM

To: obra

Subject: [OBRA Chat] OBRA starts New Wheel Program

Every year we ask members to come up with ideas on how we can make racing in

Oregon better. In 2002 we came up with the idea of doing away with the free

newspaper and instead have been combining race flyers and mailing them

direct to members. I just got mine Monday and how nice it is to have 8

races on 1 piece of paper - thanks to Ed Garfield for coming up with this

one.

Last year an idea was proposed by Brad Ross. Why doesn't OBRA buy wheels and

they can be used at road events as neutral wheels instead of soliciting

riders to donate to the cause. So we bought 15 sets of Mavic wheels. Yes

30 wheels total. Roger Banvard of Newport volunteered to true them, check

for defects and keep them in good condition.They are available to all road

races. The problem is that we have not come up with a clear cut way to

reimburse OBRA for the expense - a way for the program to pay for itself.

Earlier this month I propposed to the board that we come up with a fee

structure to pay for them. Like have the race organizer come up with an

extra $100-$200 to cover the costs. Well it is a new program and most of

the race organizers cannot come up with that out of their meager budgets. So

now I have another proposal.

Why don't we set out a jar for donations. If each rider put in $1 that

would more then cover the program and give Roger gas money back and forth

from Newport. So what do you all think? Is putting $1 in the kitty worth

not donating your wheels each week?

Candi

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<DIV>I think this is a great idea!!! No were else that I know of in the country has such a program. I will gladly put a dollar in even if Campy is not supported. At least there will be a front wheel I could use.</DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV>I have one suggestion though. Please make these wheels uglier then hell so no one walks away with them. That always seem to be a problem at race. Shimano and Mavic are always hunting down riders after races to get their wheels back.</DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV>AP - Avocet Paul Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn <cmur-@obra.org> wrote:</DIV>

<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Currently they are all Shimano 9 speeds, we will need to work out all the logistics and see how the program goes before we add in all the other combinations candi -----Original Message----- From: MARTEL,MATT (HP-Corvallis,ex1) [mailto:matt_m-@hp.com] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:08 PM To: 'cmur-@obra.org'; obra Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OBRA starts New Wheel Program This is a great idea! $1 is well worth it. Would it be possible to put a 10 speed cassette on a couple of these neutral wheels? Matt -----Original Message----- From: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn [mailto:cmur-@obra.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 4:55 PM To: obra Subject: [OBRA Chat] OBRA starts New Wheel Program Every year we ask members to come up with ideas on how we can make racing in Oregon better.

In 2002 we came up with the idea of doing away with the free newspaper and instead have been combining race flyers and mailing them direct to members. I just got mine Monday and how nice it is to have 8 races on 1 piece of paper - thanks to Ed Garfield for coming up with this one. Last year an idea was proposed by Brad Ross. Why doesn't OBRA buy wheels and they can be used at road events as neutral wheels instead of soliciting riders to donate to the cause. So we bought 15 sets of Mavic wheels. Yes 30 wheels total. Roger Banvard of Newport volunteered to true them, check for defects and keep them in good condition.They are available to all road races. The problem is that we have not come up with a clear cut way to reimburse OBRA for the expense - a way for the program to pay for itself. Earlier this month I propposed to the board that we come up with a fee structure to pay for them. Like have the race organizer come up with an extra

$100-$200 to cover the costs. Well it is a new program and most of the race organizers cannot come up with that out of their meager budgets. So now I have another proposal. Why don't we set out a jar for donations. If each rider put in $1 that would more then cover the program and give Roger gas money back and forth from Newport. So what do you all think? Is putting $1 in the kitty worth not donating your wheels each week? Candi To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com. To respond to the list manager send to ob-@teleport.com To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com. To respond to the list manager send to ob-@teleport.com To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com. To respond to the list manager send to ob-@teleport.com To unsubscribe send to

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MARTEL,MATT (HP-Corvallis,ex1)

2004-02-12

Understand. I suspected this, but I will still chip in because eventually

all of us will be riding 10-speed! You don't think Shimano will be making

9-speed cassettes forever, do you? Shimano...the Microsoft of the cycling

world! :)

-----Original Message-----

From: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn [mailto:cmur-@obra.org]

Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:33 PM

To: matt_m-@hp.com; obra

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OBRA starts New Wheel Program

Currently they are all Shimano 9 speeds, we will need to work out all the

logistics and see how the program goes before we add in all the other

combinations candi

-----Original Message-----

From: MARTEL,MATT (HP-Corvallis,ex1) [mailto:matt_m-@hp.com]

Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:08 PM

To: 'cmur-@obra.org'; obra

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OBRA starts New Wheel Program

This is a great idea! $1 is well worth it. Would it be possible to put a 10

speed cassette on a couple of these neutral wheels?

Matt

-----Original Message-----

From: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn [mailto:cmur-@obra.org]

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 4:55 PM

To: obra

Subject: [OBRA Chat] OBRA starts New Wheel Program

Every year we ask members to come up with ideas on how we can make racing in

Oregon better. In 2002 we came up with the idea of doing away with the free

newspaper and instead have been combining race flyers and mailing them

direct to members. I just got mine Monday and how nice it is to have 8

races on 1 piece of paper - thanks to Ed Garfield for coming up with this

one.

Last year an idea was proposed by Brad Ross. Why doesn't OBRA buy wheels and

they can be used at road events as neutral wheels instead of soliciting

riders to donate to the cause. So we bought 15 sets of Mavic wheels. Yes

30 wheels total. Roger Banvard of Newport volunteered to true them, check

for defects and keep them in good condition.They are available to all road

races. The problem is that we have not come up with a clear cut way to

reimburse OBRA for the expense - a way for the program to pay for itself.

Earlier this month I propposed to the board that we come up with a fee

structure to pay for them. Like have the race organizer come up with an

extra $100-$200 to cover the costs. Well it is a new program and most of

the race organizers cannot come up with that out of their meager budgets. So

now I have another proposal.

Why don't we set out a jar for donations. If each rider put in $1 that

would more then cover the program and give Roger gas money back and forth

from Newport. So what do you all think? Is putting $1 in the kitty worth

not donating your wheels each week?

Candi

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Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn

2004-02-12

Currently they are all Shimano 9 speeds, we will need to work out all the

logistics and see how the program goes before we add in all the other

combinations

candi

-----Original Message-----

From: MARTEL,MATT (HP-Corvallis,ex1) [mailto:matt_m-@hp.com]

Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:08 PM

To: 'cmur-@obra.org'; obra

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OBRA starts New Wheel Program

This is a great idea! $1 is well worth it. Would it be possible to put a 10

speed cassette on a couple of these neutral wheels?

Matt

-----Original Message-----

From: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn [mailto:cmur-@obra.org]

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 4:55 PM

To: obra

Subject: [OBRA Chat] OBRA starts New Wheel Program

Every year we ask members to come up with ideas on how we can make racing in

Oregon better. In 2002 we came up with the idea of doing away with the free

newspaper and instead have been combining race flyers and mailing them

direct to members. I just got mine Monday and how nice it is to have 8

races on 1 piece of paper - thanks to Ed Garfield for coming up with this

one.

Last year an idea was proposed by Brad Ross. Why doesn't OBRA buy wheels and

they can be used at road events as neutral wheels instead of soliciting

riders to donate to the cause. So we bought 15 sets of Mavic wheels. Yes

30 wheels total. Roger Banvard of Newport volunteered to true them, check

for defects and keep them in good condition.They are available to all road

races. The problem is that we have not come up with a clear cut way to

reimburse OBRA for the expense - a way for the program to pay for itself.

Earlier this month I propposed to the board that we come up with a fee

structure to pay for them. Like have the race organizer come up with an

extra $100-$200 to cover the costs. Well it is a new program and most of

the race organizers cannot come up with that out of their meager budgets. So

now I have another proposal.

Why don't we set out a jar for donations. If each rider put in $1 that

would more then cover the program and give Roger gas money back and forth

from Newport. So what do you all think? Is putting $1 in the kitty worth

not donating your wheels each week?

Candi

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MARTEL,MATT (HP-Corvallis,ex1)

2004-02-12

This is a great idea! $1 is well worth it. Would it be possible to put a 10

speed cassette on a couple of these neutral wheels?

Matt

-----Original Message-----

From: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn [mailto:cmur-@obra.org]

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 4:55 PM

To: obra

Subject: [OBRA Chat] OBRA starts New Wheel Program

Every year we ask members to come up with ideas on how we can make racing in

Oregon better. In 2002 we came up with the idea of doing away with the free

newspaper and instead have been combining race flyers and mailing them

direct to members. I just got mine Monday and how nice it is to have 8

races on 1 piece of paper - thanks to Ed Garfield for coming up with this

one.

Last year an idea was proposed by Brad Ross. Why doesn't OBRA buy wheels and

they can be used at road events as neutral wheels instead of soliciting

riders to donate to the cause. So we bought 15 sets of Mavic wheels. Yes

30 wheels total. Roger Banvard of Newport volunteered to true them, check

for defects and keep them in good condition.They are available to all road

races. The problem is that we have not come up with a clear cut way to

reimburse OBRA for the expense - a way for the program to pay for itself.

Earlier this month I propposed to the board that we come up with a fee

structure to pay for them. Like have the race organizer come up with an

extra $100-$200 to cover the costs. Well it is a new program and most of

the race organizers cannot come up with that out of their meager budgets. So

now I have another proposal.

Why don't we set out a jar for donations. If each rider put in $1 that

would more then cover the program and give Roger gas money back and forth

from Newport. So what do you all think? Is putting $1 in the kitty worth

not donating your wheels each week?

Candi

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Schreck, George

2004-02-12

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I would be happy to donate to avoid having to bring extra wheels and look

for them at the end of a race.

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From: Steve-@clark.wa.gov [mailto:Steve-@clark.wa.gov]

Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 7:46 AM

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Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OBRA starts New Wheel Program

sounds good to me. Maybe next year the OBRA fee could just be raised a

dollar to cover it and decicate it to the program.

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From: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn [mailto:cmur-@obra.org]

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 4:55 PM

To: obra

Subject: [OBRA Chat] OBRA starts New Wheel Program

Every year we ask members to come up with ideas on how we can make racing in

Oregon better. In 2002 we came up with the idea of doing away with the free

newspaper and instead have been combining race flyers and mailing them

direct to members. I just got mine Monday and how nice it is to have 8

races on 1 piece of paper - thanks to Ed Garfield for coming up with this

one.

Last year an idea was proposed by Brad Ross. Why doesn't OBRA buy wheels and

they can be used at road events as neutral wheels instead of soliciting

riders to donate to the cause. So we bought 15 sets of Mavic wheels. Yes

30 wheels total. Roger Banvard of Newport volunteered to true them, check

for defects and keep them in good condition.They are available to all road

races. The problem is that we have not come up with a clear cut way to

reimburse OBRA for the expense - a way for the program to pay for itself.

Earlier this month I propposed to the board that we come up with a fee

structure to pay for them. Like have the race organizer come up with an

extra $100-$200 to cover the costs. Well it is a new program and most of

the race organizers cannot come up with that out of their meager budgets. So

now I have another proposal.

Why don't we set out a jar for donations. If each rider put in $1 that

would more then cover the program and give Roger gas money back and forth

from Newport. So what do you all think? Is putting $1 in the kitty worth

not donating your wheels each week?

Candi

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I would be happy to donate to avoid having to bring extra wheels and look for them at the end of a race. 



-----Original Message-----

 From: Steve-@clark.wa.gov [<A HREF="mailto:Steve-@clark.wa.gov">mailto:Steve-@clark.wa.gov</A>] 

 Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 7:46 AM

 To: cmur-@obra.org; ob-@topica.com

 Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OBRA starts New Wheel Program



 

sounds good to me. Maybe next year the OBRA fee could just be raised a dollar to cover it and decicate it to the program.

-----Original Message-----

 From: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn [<A HREF="mailto:cmur-@obra.org">mailto:cmur-@obra.org</A>] 

 Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 4:55 PM

 To: obra

 Subject: [OBRA Chat] OBRA starts New Wheel Program



 

Every year we ask members to come up with ideas on how we can make racing in Oregon better. In 2002 we came up with the idea of doing away with the free newspaper and instead have been combining race flyers and mailing them direct to members. I just got mine Monday and how nice it is to have 8 races on 1 piece of paper - thanks to Ed Garfield for coming up with this one.

Last year an idea was proposed by Brad Ross. Why doesn't OBRA buy wheels and they can be used at road events as neutral wheels instead of soliciting riders to donate to the cause. So we bought 15 sets of Mavic wheels. Yes 30 wheels total. Roger Banvard of Newport volunteered to true them, check for defects and keep them in good condition.They are available to all road races. The problem is that we have not come up with a clear cut way to reimburse OBRA for the expense - a way for the program to pay for itself. Earlier this month I propposed to the board that we come up with a fee structure to pay for them. Like have the race organizer come up with an extra $100-$200 to cover the costs. Well it is a new program and most of the race organizers cannot come up with that out of their meager budgets. So now I have another proposal.

Why don't we set out a jar for donations. If each rider put in $1 that would more then cover the program and give Roger gas money back and forth from Newport. So what do you all think? Is putting $1 in the kitty worth not donating your wheels each week?

Candi



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Steve-@clark.wa.gov

2004-02-12

sounds good to me. Maybe next year the OBRA fee could just be raised a

dollar to cover it and decicate it to the program.

-----Original Message-----

From: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn [mailto:cmur-@obra.org]

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 4:55 PM

To: obra

Subject: [OBRA Chat] OBRA starts New Wheel Program

Every year we ask members to come up with ideas on how we can make racing in

Oregon better. In 2002 we came up with the idea of doing away with the free

newspaper and instead have been combining race flyers and mailing them

direct to members. I just got mine Monday and how nice it is to have 8

races on 1 piece of paper - thanks to Ed Garfield for coming up with this

one.

Last year an idea was proposed by Brad Ross. Why doesn't OBRA buy wheels and

they can be used at road events as neutral wheels instead of soliciting

riders to donate to the cause. So we bought 15 sets of Mavic wheels. Yes

30 wheels total. Roger Banvard of Newport volunteered to true them, check

for defects and keep them in good condition.They are available to all road

races. The problem is that we have not come up with a clear cut way to

reimburse OBRA for the expense - a way for the program to pay for itself.

Earlier this month I propposed to the board that we come up with a fee

structure to pay for them. Like have the race organizer come up with an

extra $100-$200 to cover the costs. Well it is a new program and most of

the race organizers cannot come up with that out of their meager budgets. So

now I have another proposal.

Why don't we set out a jar for donations. If each rider put in $1 that

would more then cover the program and give Roger gas money back and forth

from Newport. So what do you all think? Is putting $1 in the kitty worth

not donating your wheels each week?

Candi

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Richard Sweet

2004-02-12

I am in, put the jar out and I am sure it will up.

Richard

Paul's Bicycle Way of Life Cycling Team

Erik Long

2004-02-11

Absolutely. This is the kind of idea that makes OBRA head and shoulders

above any other race organization. Ya got at least a buck from me.

-Erik

----Original Message Follows----

From: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn <cmur-@obra.org>

Reply-To: cmur-@obra.org

To: obra <ob-@topica.com>

Subject: [OBRA Chat] OBRA starts New Wheel Program

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 16:54:34 -0800

Every year we ask members to come up with ideas on how we can make racing in

Oregon better. In 2002 we came up with the idea of doing away with the free

newspaper and instead have been combining race flyers and mailing them

direct to members. I just got mine Monday and how nice it is to have 8

races on 1 piece of paper - thanks to Ed Garfield for coming up with this

one.

Last year an idea was proposed by Brad Ross. Why doesn't OBRA buy wheels and

they can be used at road events as neutral wheels instead of soliciting

riders to donate to the cause. So we bought 15 sets of Mavic wheels. Yes

30 wheels total. Roger Banvard of Newport volunteered to true them, check

for defects and keep them in good condition.They are available to all road

races. The problem is that we have not come up with a clear cut way to

reimburse OBRA for the expense - a way for the program to pay for itself.

Earlier this month I propposed to the board that we come up with a fee

structure to pay for them. Like have the race organizer come up with an

extra $100-$200 to cover the costs. Well it is a new program and most of

the race organizers cannot come up with that out of their meager budgets.

So now I have another proposal.

Why don't we set out a jar for donations. If each rider put in $1 that

would more then cover the program and give Roger gas money back and forth

from Newport. So what do you all think? Is putting $1 in the kitty worth

not donating your wheels each week?

Candi

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eri-@fusium.com

2004-02-11

Can we donate to OBRA via paypal? If that's not set up, I can help.

I'm all for donating more $$ to OBRA. They do so much for us, we are truly

spoiled. I'm sure you could easily raise some funds for programs like

these.

-Erik

David Kerchinsky

2004-02-11

I'll put my dollar in on Sunday.

From: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn <cmur-@obra.org>

Reply-To: cmur-@obra.org

To: obra <ob-@topica.com>

Subject: [OBRA Chat] OBRA starts New Wheel Program

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 16:54:34 -0800

Every year we ask members to come up with ideas on how we can make racing

in

Oregon better. In 2002 we came up with the idea of doing away with the free

newspaper and instead have been combining race flyers and mailing them

direct to members. I just got mine Monday and how nice it is to have 8

races on 1 piece of paper - thanks to Ed Garfield for coming up with this

one.

Last year an idea was proposed by Brad Ross. Why doesn't OBRA buy wheels

and

they can be used at road events as neutral wheels instead of soliciting

riders to donate to the cause. So we bought 15 sets of Mavic wheels. Yes

30 wheels total. Roger Banvard of Newport volunteered to true them, check

for defects and keep them in good condition.They are available to all road

races. The problem is that we have not come up with a clear cut way to

reimburse OBRA for the expense - a way for the program to pay for itself.

Earlier this month I propposed to the board that we come up with a fee

structure to pay for them. Like have the race organizer come up with an

extra $100-$200 to cover the costs. Well it is a new program and most of

the race organizers cannot come up with that out of their meager budgets.

So now I have another proposal.

Why don't we set out a jar for donations. If each rider put in $1 that

would more then cover the program and give Roger gas money back and forth

from Newport. So what do you all think? Is putting $1 in the kitty worth

not donating your wheels each week?

Candi

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David Kerchinsky

North River Racing

Southwest Washington's Cycling team!

http://www.northriverracing.org

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Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn

2004-02-11

Every year we ask members to come up with ideas on how we can make racing in

Oregon better. In 2002 we came up with the idea of doing away with the free

newspaper and instead have been combining race flyers and mailing them

direct to members. I just got mine Monday and how nice it is to have 8

races on 1 piece of paper - thanks to Ed Garfield for coming up with this

one.

Last year an idea was proposed by Brad Ross. Why doesn't OBRA buy wheels and

they can be used at road events as neutral wheels instead of soliciting

riders to donate to the cause. So we bought 15 sets of Mavic wheels. Yes

30 wheels total. Roger Banvard of Newport volunteered to true them, check

for defects and keep them in good condition.They are available to all road

races. The problem is that we have not come up with a clear cut way to

reimburse OBRA for the expense - a way for the program to pay for itself.

Earlier this month I propposed to the board that we come up with a fee

structure to pay for them. Like have the race organizer come up with an

extra $100-$200 to cover the costs. Well it is a new program and most of

the race organizers cannot come up with that out of their meager budgets.

So now I have another proposal.

Why don't we set out a jar for donations. If each rider put in $1 that

would more then cover the program and give Roger gas money back and forth

from Newport. So what do you all think? Is putting $1 in the kitty worth

not donating your wheels each week?

Candi

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