Cherry Pie Masters

Oregon-@cs.com

2004-02-18





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In a message dated 2/18/2004 8:35:30 AM Pacific Standard Time,

pat_s-@orcom.com writes:

 My personal suggestion once the numbers support it, would be to have a 45+

Cat. 3 and better and a 3,4,5 group.



Or, perhaps, to create a "Masters 4/5" section which would include the 4/5s

who would normally have gone out with the Masters 35+ and Masters 45+ ??



Peter



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Or, perhaps, to create a "Masters 4/5" section which would include the 4/5s who would normally have gone out with the Masters 35+ and Masters 45+ ?? <BR>

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Pat Sagers

2004-02-18



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 I agree with a masters division, as a first year racer of 66 it would

be great if we had our own groups say 50 or 55+. I also feel it would

be much safer.



I was looking back at previous years results and the 45+ category is just a

couple years old. The Cherry Pie had 40 people in the 45+ group and I would

expect it to keep growing. So I think in a few more years you might

possibly see more breakdown in the Masters fields. But I love the larger

fields. For instance, that hill in the Cherry Pie breaks the field up pretty

good. In years past I've riden the rest of the ride by myself. This time I

had several folks to form a chase group with. It was really fun.

Regardless of where you finish, if you can work with several other riders of

similar ability to a common goal, that's what racing is all about.



My personal suggestion once the numbers support it, would be to have a 45+

Cat. 3 and better and a 3,4,5 group.



Pat









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<P><FONT SIZE=2>> I agree with a masters division, as a first year racer of 66 it would </FONT>

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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I was looking back at previous years results and the 45+ category is just a couple years old. The Cherry Pie had 40 people in the 45+ group and I would expect it to keep growing.  So I think in a few more years you might possibly see more breakdown in the Masters fields.  But I love the larger fields. For instance, that hill in the Cherry Pie breaks the field up pretty good. In years past I've riden the rest of the ride by myself.  This time I had several folks to form a chase group with.  It was really fun.  Regardless of where you finish, if you can work with several other riders of similar ability to a common goal, that's what racing is all about.</FONT></P>



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mike.m-@obra.org

2004-02-17



Jean Wendling [mailto:coas-@joimail.com] wrote:

"I agree with a masters division, as a first year racer of 66 it would

be great if we had our own groups say 50 or 55+... I know the Pacific

Northwest Tennis circuit has 5 year increment senior divisions starting

at 45 that allows you compete against folks more your age."



There are bike racing events that do break competition down into 5 year age

increments too. You will see 5 year age increments at, for example, the

State Masters Track Championships. Most races are not able to do that

because of the constraints of available road time, officials budgets, etc.

Race organizers generally attempt to select field criteria based on their

personal interests and on what they think will draw the largest amount of

people and attention to their events. Age is only a relative predictor of

performance and ability. Often Masters fields have a wide disparity of

abilities.



Mike Murray



jean wendling

2004-02-17



I agree with a masters division, as a first year racer of 66 it would

be great if we had our own groups say 50 or 55+. I also feel it would

be much safer. It was a bit unnerving having the Pro 1/2/3 cat's lap

you and hoping your not going to cause a mishap. It was my first race

and I'm not to sure I want to get back out there again and maybe get in

the way. But if there is a masters grouping, or better yet masters

races you can definitely count on me being there. I know the Pacific

Northwest Tennis circuit has 5 year increment senior divisions starting

at 45 that allows you compete against folks more your age. This might

also attract more retirees like myself into road racing. It was a

thrill to race with you all and hope to do it again in the near future.

I would also like to wish the injured rider a speedy recovery.

Jean Wendling