RE: Centerline and other violations

Eric.K-@kingrs.com

2004-02-20



or we could just yell "I GOT YOUR NUMBER MR.522!!"



-----Original Message-----

From: Paul Kanz [mailto:pka-@kanz.org]

Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:16 AM

To: Steve-@clark.wa.gov

Cc: shane.-@comcast.net; ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Centerline and other violations







Maybe the official will give the rider a tow back to the field, on their

way to pull the number of the offending rider.



On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 Steve-@clark.wa.gov wrote:



 I agree with you Shane, however, I would like to know who is going to drop

back to tell an official in risk of having to fight their way back up in

to

 the main field?



-----Original Message-----

From: Shane Young [mailto:shane.-@comcast.net]

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 10:02 PM

To: 'obra'

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Centerline and other violations





I really hope that a comment like this is a joke... because it if isn't...

it is a sad, sad comment...



-----Original Message-----

From: Ted Forgeron [mailto:te-@easystreet.com]

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 5:40 PM

To: cmur-@obra.org; 'Shane Stent'; 'obra'

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Centerline and other violations



That would be "rat finking".



-----Original Message-----

From: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn [mailto:cmur-@obra.org]

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:18 AM

To: Shane Stent; obra

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Centerline and other violations



I think it might work better if a rider who sees some blatant abuse drops

back and lets the official know the # of the riders doing the offense.

Candi

 





-----Original Message-----

From: Shane Stent [mailto:sst-@msn.com]

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:16 AM

To: mike.m-@obra.org; cmur-@obra.org

Subject: Centerline and other violations





Since it seems that there are still kids out there who refuse to play by

the

 rules and since the officials cannot catch all, would there be any

validity

 to have a few "moles" amongst the categories to ensure safety.



No one would know who they are and the "moles" would report violations at

the close of the race in a discreet manner. I know this gets into a wierd

area of Big Brother and such but in the name of safety and clean racing,

would it be worth it?



If all of a sudden, 10 riders are DQ'd at the end of race and no official

made the call, racers might start to behave a little better.



Of course, there are a lot of questions with this.....how does a mole or a

couple of moles keep track of guilty parties and still enjoy the race? How

do you know if a mole is telling the truth? If Kent were a mole, would he

report Lance in violation each race and vice versa?



Just a simple idea from a simple person who enjoys keeping the rubber side

down.



Shane



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