How to fly free with bikes-another option

Phil Harden

2004-02-28



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many years ago, the airlines charged a fee to ship your bike. they didn't charge for golf clubs and skis. so one day i boxed up my bike and took it to the ticket counter. when asked what it was i told them this.

this is an invention. i am going to see a patent attorney. they then asked what it was. and i told them this.

it is a lever acuated, bi-pedial, angular momentum divise. the ticket person said ok, and it was shipped free as one of my pieces of luggage. a little white ly, yes. but i fooled them.

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From: RLO

To: ob-@topica.com

Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 1:39 PM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] How to fly free with bikes-another option





A few years ago I sent my bike to Tucson, in a hard case, for about $30.00. (My company is a daily preferred shipper with UPS), got rushed when returning and went to a Mail Boxes Etc. and almost got in a fight cause it was $110.00 to ship it back!!!!



Point is, work with friends or someone who is a Preferred Shipper with UPS and can be fairly cheap! -rlo





"Hopkins, Larry" <lhop-@Huntair.com> wrote:

    I checked UPS ground to San Diego and it was over $100 one way and 4 days transit time. The $50 airline fee isn't all that bad by comparison.



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    A few years ago, I traveled out of town to some races (New Mexico and Minnesota). Instead of letting the airlines shake me down for the $50.00 fee (and risking the MORON baggage handlers drop my bike box out of the plane just for kicks), I sent the bike via UPS. The benefits are that the bike WILL arrive (unlike the airlines, where you're just plain lucky if your baggage arrives), it will probably receive better treatment (although I've heard reports to the contrary), and you can insure it. If the airlines Do you Yahoo!?

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>many years ago, the airlines charged a fee to ship

your bike.  they didn't charge for golf clubs and skis.  so one day i

boxed up my bike and took it to the ticket counter.  when asked what it was

i told them this.  </FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>this is an invention.  i am going to see a

patent attorney.  they then asked what it was.  and i told them

this.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>it is a lever acuated, bi-pedial, angular momentum

divise.  the ticket person said ok, and it was shipped free as one of my

pieces of luggage.  a little white ly, yes.  but i fooled

them.</FONT></DIV>

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<DIV>A few years ago I sent my bike to Tucson, in a hard case, for about

$30.00. (My company is a daily preferred shipper with UPS), got rushed when

returning and went to a Mail Boxes Etc. and almost got in a fight cause it was

$110.00 to ship it back!!!!</DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV>Point is, work with friends or someone who is a Preferred Shipper with

UPS and can be fairly cheap! -rlo</DIV>

<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>"Hopkins, Larry" <lhop-@Huntair.com></I></B>

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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">I

    checked UPS ground to San Diego and it was over $100 one way and 4 days

    transit time. The $50 airline fee isn't all that bad by comparison.

    <BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Dan Silvernail

    [mailto:dansilv-@comcast.net]<BR>Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 11:00

    AM<BR>To: ob-@topica.com<BR>Subject: [OBRA Chat] How to fly free with

    bikes-another option<BR><BR><BR>A few years ago, I traveled out of town to

    some races (New Mexico and Minnesota). Instead of letting the airlines shake

    me down for the $50.00 fee (and risking the MORON baggage handlers drop my

    bike box out of the plane just for kicks), I sent the bike via UPS. The

    benefits are that the bike WILL arrive (unlike the airlines, where you're

    just plain lucky if your baggage arrives), it will probably receive better

    treatment (although I've heard reports to the contrary), and you can insure

    it. If the airlines Do you Yahoo!?<BR><A

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mike.m-@obra.org

2004-02-20



It is generally cheaper to have UPS stop at your home and pick up a bike

then it is if you take it to Mail Boxes Etc. or other shippers. They tack

an extra charge on above the shipping cost.



Mike Murray

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From: RLO [mailto:rlo-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 13:40 PM

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A few years ago I sent my bike to Tucson, in a hard case, for about $30.00.

(My company is a daily preferred shipper with UPS), got rushed when

returning and went to a Mail Boxes Etc. and almost got in a fight cause it

was $110.00 to ship it back!!!!



Point is, work with friends or someone who is a Preferred Shipper with UPS

and can be fairly cheap! -rlo





"Hopkins, Larry" <lhop-@Huntair.com> wrote:

I checked UPS ground to San Diego and it was over $100 one way and 4 days

transit time. The $50 airline fee isn't all that bad by comparison.



-----Original Message-----

From: Dan Silvernail [mailto:dansilv-@comcast.net]

Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 11:00 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] How to fly free with bikes-another option





A few years ago, I traveled out of town to some races (New Mexico and

Minnesota). Instead of letting the airlines shake me down for the $50.00 fee

(and risking the MORON baggage handlers drop my bike box out of the plane

just for kicks), I sent the bike via UPS. The benefits are that the bike

WILL arrive (unlike the airlines, where you're just plain lucky if your

baggage arrives), it will probably receive better treatment (although I've

heard reports to the contrary), and you can insure it. If the airlines Do

you Yahoo!?

Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want.



jo-@beaston.com

2004-02-20



I've found that local bike shops often have preferred shipper status and

will both box (if necessary) and ship a bike. Boxing is normally $25.

Shipping is usually $30-35.

-John





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A few years ago I sent my bike to Tucson, in a hard case, for about $30.00. (My company is a daily preferred shipper with UPS), got rushed when returning and went to a Mail Boxes Etc. and almost got in a fight cause it was $110.00 to ship it back!!!!



Point is, work with friends or someone who is a Preferred Shipper with UPS and can be fairly cheap! -rlo





"Hopkins, Larry" <lhop-@Huntair.com> wrote:

I checked UPS ground to San Diego and it was over $100 one way and 4 days transit time. The $50 airline fee isn't all that bad by comparison.



-----Original Message-----

From: Dan Silvernail [mailto:dansilv-@comcast.net]

Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 11:00 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] How to fly free with bikes-another option





A few years ago, I traveled out of town to some races (New Mexico and Minnesota). Instead of letting the airlines shake me down for the $50.00 fee (and risking the MORON baggage handlers drop my bike box out of the plane just for kicks), I sent the bike via UPS. The benefits are that the bike WILL arrive (unlike the airlines, where you're just plain lucky if your baggage arrives), it will probably receive better treatment (although I've heard reports to the contrary), and you can insure it. If the airlines damage your bike (refer back to my comments about the idiots who toss people's suitcases, etc, around like they're hay bales) you're just plain out of luck.



Of course, the down side to UPS'ing your bike is that you have to have a place to send it to (my dad lives in NM and my sister lives in Minn). Also, you need to allow a few days for shipping before and after the trip.



When I did this, the shipping cost was about the same as what the airlines would have gouged me.



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<DIV>A few years ago I sent my bike to Tucson, in a hard case, for about $30.00. (My company is a daily preferred shipper with UPS), got rushed when returning and went to a Mail Boxes Etc. and almost got in a fight cause it was $110.00 to ship it back!!!!</DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV>Point is, work with friends or someone who is a Preferred Shipper with UPS and can be fairly cheap! -rlo</DIV>

<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>"Hopkins, Larry" <lhop-@Huntair.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>

<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">I checked UPS ground to San Diego and it was over $100 one way and 4 days transit time. The $50 airline fee isn't all that bad by comparison. <BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Dan Silvernail [mailto:dansilv-@comcast.net]<BR>Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 11:00 AM<BR>To: ob-@topica.com<BR>Subject: [OBRA Chat] How to fly free with bikes-another option<BR><BR><BR>A few years ago, I traveled out of town to some races (New Mexico and Minnesota). Instead of letting the airlines shake me down for the $50.00 fee (and risking the MORON baggage handlers drop my bike box out of the plane just for kicks), I sent the bike via UPS. The benefits are that the bike WILL arrive (unlike the airlines, where you're just plain lucky if your baggage arrives), it will probably receive better treatment (although I've heard reports to the contrary), and you can insure it. If the airlines

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Hopkins, Larry

2004-02-20



I checked UPS ground to San Diego and it was over $100 one way and 4 days transit time. The $50 airline fee isn't all that bad by comparison.    



-----Original Message-----

From: Dan Silvernail [mailto:dansilv-@comcast.net]

Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 11:00 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] How to fly free with bikes-another option





A few years ago, I traveled out of town to some races (New Mexico and Minnesota). Instead of letting the airlines shake me down for the $50.00 fee (and risking the MORON baggage handlers drop my bike box out of the plane just for kicks), I sent the bike via UPS.   The benefits are that the bike WILL arrive (unlike the airlines, where you're just plain lucky if your baggage arrives), it will probably receive better treatment (although I've heard reports to the contrary), and you can insure it. If the airlines damage your bike (refer back to my comments about the idiots who toss people's suitcases, etc, around like they're hay bales) you're just plain out of luck.



Of course, the down side to UPS'ing your bike is that you have to have a place to send it to (my dad lives in NM and my sister lives in Minn). Also, you need to allow a few days for shipping before and after the trip.



When I did this, the shipping cost was about the same as what the airlines would have gouged me.



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andrew.-@farmersinsurance.com

2004-02-20











Most people think UPS is cheap but when you ship a bike check out FEDEX,

they have ground that rivals and usually beats UPS, I shipped a road bike

from Oregon to Washington DC and it was $30....and that was with $2000

insurance. The service was better and it got there fast and has tracking

numbers and all. Check it out.



Drew Holmes



Bend, Oregon







                                                                                                                                       

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A few years ago, I traveled out of town to some races (New Mexico and

Minnesota). Instead of letting the airlines shake me down for the $50.00

fee (and risking the MORON baggage handlers drop my bike box out of the

plane just for kicks), I sent the bike via UPS.   The benefits are that the

bike WILL arrive (unlike the airlines, where you're just plain lucky if

your baggage arrives), it will probably receive better treatment (although

I've heard reports to the contrary), and you can insure it. If the

airlines damage your bike (refer back to my comments about the idiots who

toss people's suitcases, etc, around like they're hay bales) you're just

plain out of luck.



Of course, the down side to UPS'ing your bike is that you have to have a

place to send it to (my dad lives in NM and my sister lives in Minn).

Also, you need to allow a few days for shipping before and after the trip.



When I did this, the shipping cost was about the same as what the airlines

would have gouged me.



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Eric.K-@kingrs.com

2004-02-20



i just shipped a road bike to the east coast on fed-ex ground and it cost

35.00 insured.



-----Original Message-----

From: Dan Silvernail [mailto:dansilv-@comcast.net]

Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 11:00 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] How to fly free with bikes-another option





A few years ago, I traveled out of town to some races (New Mexico and

Minnesota). Instead of letting the airlines shake me down for the $50.00

fee (and risking the MORON baggage handlers drop my bike box out of the

plane just for kicks), I sent the bike via UPS.   The benefits are that the

bike WILL arrive (unlike the airlines, where you're just plain lucky if your

baggage arrives), it will probably receive better treatment (although I've

heard reports to the contrary), and you can insure it. If the airlines

damage your bike (refer back to my comments about the idiots who toss

people's suitcases, etc, around like they're hay bales) you're just plain

out of luck.



Of course, the down side to UPS'ing your bike is that you have to have a

place to send it to (my dad lives in NM and my sister lives in Minn). Also,

you need to allow a few days for shipping before and after the trip.



When I did this, the shipping cost was about the same as what the airlines

would have gouged me.



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dansilv-@comcast.net

2004-02-20



A few years ago, I traveled out of town to some races (New Mexico and Minnesota). Instead of letting the airlines shake me down for the $50.00 fee (and risking the MORON baggage handlers drop my bike box out of the plane just for kicks), I sent the bike via UPS.   The benefits are that the bike WILL arrive (unlike the airlines, where you're just plain lucky if your baggage arrives), it will probably receive better treatment (although I've heard reports to the contrary), and you can insure it. If the airlines damage your bike (refer back to my comments about the idiots who toss people's suitcases, etc, around like they're hay bales) you're just plain out of luck.



Of course, the down side to UPS'ing your bike is that you have to have a place to send it to (my dad lives in NM and my sister lives in Minn). Also, you need to allow a few days for shipping before and after the trip.



When I did this, the shipping cost was about the same as what the airlines would have gouged me.