Fwd: Any asthma sufferers in OBRA land?

Cheryl Willson

2004-02-25





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Sorry all, you should just navigate yourself. Go to:

http://www.wada-ama.org/



Click on "Athlete's Corner" in the left hand navigation and then click

on the area that you're interested in.





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 From: Steve-@clark.wa.gov

Date: February 25, 2004 3:03:24 PM PST

To: cjwil-@mindspring.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Any asthma sufferers in OBRA land?



Cheryl,

those links don't work.

-----Original Message-----

From: Cheryl J. Willson [mailto:cjwil-@mindspring.com]

Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 3:01 PM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: Fwd: [OBRA Chat] Any asthma sufferers in OBRA land?





This is the WADA site: http://www.wada-ama.org







The "Athlete's Corner" includes the prohibited list and information

on therapeutic use exceptions.



Prohibited List as PDF is here:

http://www.wada-ama.org/en/t3.asp?p=41510



Therapeutic Use info: http://www.wada-ama.org/en/t2.asp?p=41572











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From: "Schreck, George" <george.-@pacificorp.com>



Date: February 25, 2004 2:51:25 PM PST



To: ob-@topica.com



Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Any asthma sufferers in OBRA land?



Reply-To: george.-@pacificorp.com







Advair, Flovent and Albuterol are all permitted medications, but a

form must be filed.? The from must be completed by your doctor and

then you send it to WADA.? You are supposed to keep a copy of the form

you filed with you at all races to demonstrate compliance if you are

tested.? Failure to file the form or have a copy of the filed from

with you, can subject you to the same penalties as exist for illegal

drugs.







If you go to the USA cycling website and find the section on drugs, it

will link you to the WADA site and you can get a copy of the form and

mailing instructions.







You will find that Advair or Flovent will make a significant

difference throughout the day and will prevent most attacks, but you

still should carry albuterol as you can still have an attack.







??????? George Schreck



???????? Phone: (503) 813-7211



????????? Fax: (503) 813-7190













-----Original Message-----



From: Steve-@clark.wa.gov [mailto:Steve-@clark.wa.gov]



Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:24 PM



To: thob-@hotmail.com; ob-@topica.com



Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Any asthma sufferers in OBRA land?











that should be easy enough to get if your doctor put you on the stuff.

Especially since asthma can be life threatening.







-----Original Message-----



From: Tony Hobkirk [mailto:thob-@hotmail.com]



Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:24 PM



To: ob-@topica.com



Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Any asthma sufferers in OBRA land?











It should be noted that most asthma medications are restricted by WADA



regulations.? I am by no means an expert, but in general, I believe one



needs a medical certificate on file to compete while using them.







Not sure where OBRA stands on this.











Nicholas Perera wrote:



 


 Hey Keith, the great thing about inhaled steroids is



 that they are being delivered exactly where you need



 them. Before the advent of inhaled steroids serious asthmatics had to



 take prednisone pills which can cause (among many other things) an



 increase in body fat and muscle breakdown. Steroids for asthma are

not



 in the same class as the steroids you hear about



 weightlifters (or cyclists) taking to gain muscle



 mass. In general the dose one takes with inhaled



 steroids is too low to notice systemic ("whole-body")



 side effects. If you're worried about this, swish and



 gargle some water after puffing and spit it out, this



 will reduce the amount of drug you end up swallowing.



 I've been taking advair (the same drug, fluticasone,



 with salmeterol, a long acting bronchodilator) for



 years and have only noticed an improvement in my



 cycling. Be sure to continue to carry your albuterol



 (ventolin or other brand) inhaler with you though in



 case you have a "breakthrough" asthma attack. The



 steroid inhaler does not work well in case of an acute



 attack.



 -Nick



 


 --- "Keith A. Prior" <toka-@ix.netcom.com> wrote:



  Hello:



  



  I was an asthmatic from age 5 to age 19. I have not



  had any attacks until



  just this past summer at age 33. They have



  become worse since October of '03. Needless to say



  this put a damper on my



  cycling and was even difficult to even pick



  up my son at times as I would be out of breath.



  After suffering form months



  and having attacks that lasted for



  days I decided to see my doctor. She prescribed a



  inhaled corticosteroid



  called Flovent. I do 2 puffs in the morning



  and 2 at night and since starting on? this



  medication have not had on e



  single attack or sign of bronchial constriction.



  And feel 100% better. I have also not noticed any



  side effects and am quite



  peased with what it is doing even though I



  am not crazy about being on medication of any kind.



  While I feel that I have found a 'miracle drug' I



  wonder what long term



  effects it might have particularly as an athlete.



  



  If anyone in OBRA land has had experience with



  asthma, Flovent or any other



  asthma medication I would love to hear your



  stories.



  



  Thank You,



  



  Keith Prior



  



  Team Los Ciclistas



 


 


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Sorry all, you should just navigate yourself. Go to:

http://www.wada-ama.org/





Click on "Athlete's Corner" in the left hand navigation and then click

on the area that you're interested in.







Begin forwarded message:





<excerpt><bold><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>From:

</color></bold>Steve-@clark.wa.gov



<bold><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>Date:

</color></bold>February 25, 2004 3:03:24 PM PST



<bold><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>To:

</color></bold>cjwil-@mindspring.com



<bold><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>Subject: </color>RE: [OBRA

Chat] Any asthma sufferers in OBRA land?



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Cheryl J. Willson =

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Fwd: [OBRA Chat] Any asthma sufferers in OBRA =

land?</smaller></fontfamily>







This is the WADA site: http://www.wada-ama.org









The "Athlete's Corner" includes the prohibited list and information

on therapeutic use exceptions.





Prohibited List as PDF is here:

http://www.wada-ama.org/en/t3.asp?p=3D41510





Therapeutic Use info: http://www.wada-ama.org/en/t2.asp?p=3D41572













Begin forwarded message:









<bold>From:</bold> "Schreck, George" <<george.-@pacificorp.com>





<bold>Date:</bold> February 25, 2004 2:51:25 PM PST





<bold>To:</bold> ob-@topica.com





<bold>Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Any asthma sufferers in OBRA =

land?</bold>





<bold> Reply-To:</bold> george.-@pacificorp.com









<smaller>Advair, Flovent and Albuterol are all permitted medications,

but a form must be filed.=A0 The from must be completed by your doctor

and then you send it to WADA.=A0 You are supposed to keep a copy of the

form you filed with you at all races to demonstrate compliance if you

are tested.=A0 Failure to file the form or have a copy of the filed from

with you, can subject you to the same penalties as exist for illegal

drugs.</smaller>=20









<smaller>If you go to the USA cycling website and find the section on

drugs, it will link you to the WADA site and you can get a copy of the

form and mailing instructions.</smaller>=20









<smaller>You will find that Advair or Flovent will make a significant

difference throughout the day and will prevent most attacks, but you

still should carry albuterol as you can still have an

attack.</smaller>=20









<smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 George Schreck</smaller>=20





<smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Phone: (503) 813-7211</smaller>=20





<smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Fax: (503) 813-7190</smaller>=20















<smaller>-----Original Message-----</smaller>=20





<smaller>From: Steve-@clark.wa.gov

=

[<color><param>0000,0E0E,E0E0</param>mailto:Steve-@clark.wa.gov</color=

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<smaller>Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:24 PM</smaller>=20





<smaller>To: thob-@hotmail.com; ob-@topica.com</smaller>=20





<smaller>Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Any asthma sufferers in OBRA

land?</smaller>=20













<smaller>that should be easy enough to get if your doctor put you on

the stuff. Especially since asthma can be life threatening.</smaller>=20









<smaller>-----Original Message-----</smaller>=20





<smaller>From: Tony Hobkirk

=

[<color><param>0000,0E0E,E0E0</param>mailto:thob-@hotmail.com</color>]<=

/smaller>=20





<smaller>Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:24 PM</smaller>=20





<smaller>To: ob-@topica.com</smaller>=20





<smaller>Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Any asthma sufferers in OBRA

land?</smaller>=20













<smaller>It should be noted that most asthma medications are

restricted by WADA</smaller>=20





<smaller>regulations.=A0 I am by no means an expert, but in general, I

believe one</smaller>=20





<smaller>needs a medical certificate on file to compete while using

them.</smaller>=20









<smaller>Not sure where OBRA stands on this.</smaller>=20













<smaller>Nicholas Perera wrote:</smaller>=20





<smaller>></smaller>=20





<smaller>> Hey Keith, the great thing about inhaled steroids

is</smaller>=20





<smaller>> that they are being delivered exactly where you

need</smaller>=20





<smaller>> them. Before the advent of inhaled steroids serious

asthmatics had to</smaller>=20





<smaller>> take prednisone pills which can cause (among many other

things) an</smaller>=20





<smaller>> increase in body fat and muscle breakdown. Steroids for

asthma are not</smaller>=20





<smaller>> in the same class as the steroids you hear about</smaller>=20





<smaller>> weightlifters (or cyclists) taking to gain muscle</smaller>=20=







<smaller>> mass. In general the dose one takes with inhaled</smaller>=20





<smaller>> steroids is too low to notice systemic

("whole-body")</smaller>=20





<smaller>> side effects. If you're worried about this, swish

and</smaller>=20





<smaller>> gargle some water after puffing and spit it out,

this</smaller>=20





<smaller>> will reduce the amount of drug you end up

swallowing.</smaller>=20





<smaller>> I've been taking advair (the same drug,

fluticasone,</smaller>=20





<smaller>> with salmeterol, a long acting bronchodilator)

for</smaller>=20





<smaller>> years and have only noticed an improvement in my</smaller>=20





<smaller>> cycling. Be sure to continue to carry your

albuterol</smaller>=20





<smaller>> (ventolin or other brand) inhaler with you though

in</smaller>=20





<smaller>> case you have a "breakthrough" asthma attack. The</smaller>=20=







<smaller>> steroid inhaler does not work well in case of an

acute</smaller>=20





<smaller>> attack.</smaller>=20





<smaller>> -Nick</smaller>=20





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<smaller>> --- "Keith A. Prior" <<toka-@ix.netcom.com>

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<smaller>> > I was an asthmatic from age 5 to age 19. I have

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<smaller>> > just this past summer at age 33. They have</smaller>=20





<smaller>> > become worse since October of '03. Needless to

say</smaller>=20





<smaller>> > this put a damper on my</smaller>=20





<smaller>> > cycling and was even difficult to even pick</smaller>=20





<smaller>> > up my son at times as I would be out of breath.</smaller>=20=







<smaller>> > After suffering form months</smaller>=20





<smaller>> > and having attacks that lasted for</smaller>=20





<smaller>> > days I decided to see my doctor. She prescribed

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<smaller>> > inhaled corticosteroid</smaller>=20





<smaller>> > called Flovent. I do 2 puffs in the morning</smaller>=20





<smaller>> > and 2 at night and since starting on=A0 this</smaller>=20





<smaller>> > medication have not had on e</smaller>=20





<smaller>> > single attack or sign of bronchial

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<smaller>> > And feel 100% better. I have also not noticed

any</smaller>=20





<smaller>> > side effects and am quite</smaller>=20





<smaller>> > peased with what it is doing even though I</smaller>=20





<smaller>> > am not crazy about being on medication of any

kind.</smaller>=20





<smaller>> > While I feel that I have found a 'miracle drug'

I</smaller>=20





<smaller>> > wonder what long term</smaller>=20





<smaller>> > effects it might have particularly as an

athlete.</smaller>=20





<smaller>> ></smaller>=20





<smaller>> > If anyone in OBRA land has had experience with</smaller>=20





<smaller>> > asthma, Flovent or any other</smaller>=20





<smaller>> > asthma medication I would love to hear your</smaller>=20





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<smaller>> > Thank You,</smaller>=20





<smaller>> ></smaller>=20





<smaller>> > Keith Prior</smaller>=20





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<smaller>> > Team Los Ciclistas</smaller>=20





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<smaller>> Nicholas Perera=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0</smaller>=20





<smaller>> Case Western Reserve University</smaller>=20





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