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Prozanski introduced that bill? He flies on a bike and climbs like a
billy-goat.
He's in the state senate this year, so maybe it'll get some action. Who
are the other bike-crazy legislators in Salem?
-Thom "My Senator can beat your Senator in a TT" Schoenborn
On Jan 24, 2005, at 5:41 PM, Michael Packard wrote:
?Here's the history of how that legislation did not become law, as
summarized by the BTA.
http://www.bta4bikes.org/info/archi...cltr1003.html#6
The Sign Says "STOP"
You may remember hearing about a bill in the Oregon legislature that
would have allowed cyclists to treat stop signs as yield signs. More
recently, you may have heard a fellow cyclist make an airy reference
to that "law" as they slipped past you at a stop sign or at a red
light. We've had a few calls from alarmed bikers and angry motorists,
wondering what's up. The real story: the law ain't on the books.
HB 2768, introduced by Eugene Representative Floyd Prozanski, would
have allowed cyclists to slow and yield the right-of-way, eliminating
the need for a foot-down stop, at stop signs and flashing red lights
(not stoplights). Although the bill did pass the House of
Representatives, it didn't make it through the Senate and did not
become law.
Since the bill didn't pass, cyclists are still required to stop at
stop signs, as well as obey all other traffic laws. So, when the sign
says "stop," take a breather, check out the scenery and think of
yourself as a biking ambassador-promoting goodwill toward all
cyclists.?
?
Michael
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Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 2:45 PM
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Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Warning: Police are ticketing at NE Broadway
and Flint.
George is correct, this was not passed into law.
?
Mark Ginsberg, bike lawyer to the unwary and unfortunate!
?
"Schreck, George" <george.-@pacificorp.com> wrote:
I do not believe that the law passed.
From: Shane Young [mailto:shane.-@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 2:08 PM
To: kj_f-@yahoo.com; OBRA
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Warning: Police are ticketing at NE Broadway
and Flint.
Didn't Oregon just change the law to be that cyclist didn't have to
stop at stop signs, just slow down?? Still need to stop at lights,
just not signs?? Not the smartest of laws... But if that is the case,
I don't think they can ticket you for not stopping unless traffic was
coming and you impeded the flow of traffic.
?
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Prozanski introduced that bill? He flies on a bike and climbs like a
billy-goat.
He's in the state senate this year, so maybe it'll get some action.
Who are the other bike-crazy legislators in Salem?
-Thom "My Senator can beat your Senator in a TT" Schoenborn
On Jan 24, 2005, at 5:41 PM, Michael Packard wrote:
<excerpt><color><param>FFFF,0000,0000</param><bigger><bigger>=93Here's
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<color><param>FFFF,0000,0000</param><bigger><bigger>The Sign Says
"STOP"</bigger></bigger></color>
<color><param>FFFF,0000,0000</param><bigger><bigger>You may remember
hearing about a bill in the Oregon legislature that would have allowed
cyclists to treat stop signs as yield signs. More recently, you may
have heard a fellow cyclist make an airy reference to that "law" as
they slipped past you at a stop sign or at a red light. We've had a
few calls from alarmed bikers and angry motorists, wondering what's
up. The real story: the law ain't on the books. =
</bigger></bigger></color>
<color><param>FFFF,0000,0000</param><bigger><bigger>HB 2768,
introduced by Eugene Representative Floyd Prozanski, would have
allowed cyclists to slow and yield the right-of-way, eliminating the
need for a foot-down stop, at stop signs and flashing red lights (not
stoplights). Although the bill did pass the House of Representatives,
it didn't make it through the Senate and did not become =
law.</bigger></bigger></color>
<color><param>FFFF,0000,0000</param><bigger><bigger>Since the bill
didn't pass, cyclists are still required to stop at stop signs, as
well as obey all other traffic laws. So, when the sign says "stop,"
take a breather, check out the scenery and think of yourself as a
biking ambassador-promoting goodwill toward all =
cyclists.=94</bigger></bigger></color>
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<color><param>FFFF,0000,0000</param>Michael</color>
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george.-@pacificorp.com; OBRA</smaller></fontfamily>
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RE: [OBRA Chat] Warning: Police are ticketing at NE Broadway and =
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George is correct, this was not passed into law.
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Mark Ginsberg, bike lawyer to the unwary and unfortunate!
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<bold><italic>"Schreck, George"
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<color><param>0000,0000,FFFF</param><smaller>I do not believe that the
law passed.</smaller></color>
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Shane Young [mailto:shane.-@comcast.net]</smaller></fontfamily>
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January 24, 2005 2:08 PM</smaller></fontfamily>
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kj_f-@yahoo.com; OBRA</smaller></fontfamily>
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mily></bold><fontfamily><param>Tahoma</param><smaller>
Re: [OBRA Chat] Warning: Police are ticketing at NE Broadway and =
Flint.</smaller></fontfamily>
Didn't Oregon just change the law to be that cyclist didn't have to
stop at stop signs, just slow down?=A0 Still need to stop at lights,
just not signs?=A0 Not the smartest of laws... But if that is the case,
I don't think they can ticket you for not stopping unless traffic was
coming and you impeded the flow of traffic.
=A0
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