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"Here's the history of how that legislation did not become law, as
summarized by the BTA.
http://www.bta4bikes.org/info/archi...cltr1003.html#6
<http://www.bta4bikes.org/info/archive3/cyc-2003/cltr1003.html#6>
The Sign Says "STOP"
You may remember hearing about a bill in the Oregon legislature that
would have allowed cyclists to treat stop signs as yield signs. More
recently, you may have heard a fellow cyclist make an airy reference to
that "law" as they slipped past you at a stop sign or at a red light.
We've had a few calls from alarmed bikers and angry motorists, wondering
what's up. The real story: the law ain't on the books.
HB 2768, introduced by Eugene Representative Floyd Prozanski, would have
allowed cyclists to slow and yield the right-of-way, eliminating the
need for a foot-down stop, at stop signs and flashing red lights (not
stoplights). Although the bill did pass the House of Representatives, it
didn't make it through the Senate and did not become law.
Since the bill didn't pass, cyclists are still required to stop at stop
signs, as well as obey all other traffic laws. So, when the sign says
"stop," take a breather, check out the scenery and think of yourself as
a biking ambassador-promoting goodwill toward all cyclists."
Michael
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From: markjgi-@yahoo.com [mailto:markjgi-@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 2:45 PM
To: george.-@pacificorp.com; OBRA
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Warning: Police are ticketing at NE Broadway
and Flint.
George is correct, this was not passed into law.
Mark Ginsberg, bike lawyer to the unwary and unfortunate!
"Schreck, George" <george.-@pacificorp.com> wrote:
I do not believe that the law passed.
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From: Shane Young [mailto:shane.-@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 2:08 PM
To: kj_f-@yahoo.com; OBRA
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Warning: Police are ticketing at NE
Broadway and Flint.
Didn't Oregon just change the law to be that cyclist didn't have
to stop at stop signs, just slow down? Still need to stop at lights,
just not signs? Not the smartest of laws... But if that is the case, I
don't think they can ticket you for not stopping unless traffic was
coming and you impeded the flow of traffic.
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red">“Here's the
history of how that legislation did not become law, as summarized by the BTA.
<BR><BR><A title=http://www.bta4bikes.org/info/archive3/cyc-2003/cltr1003.html#6
href="http://www.bta4bikes.org/info/archive3/cyc-2003/cltr1003.html#6"
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title=http://www.bta4bikes.org/info/archive3/cyc-2003/cltr1003.html#6
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title=http://www.bta4bikes.org/info/archive3/cyc-2003/cltr1003.html#6
style="COLOR: red">http://www.bta4bikes.org/info/archi...cltr1003.html#6</SPAN></FONT></A><BR><BR>The
Sign Says "STOP"<BR>You may remember hearing about a bill in the Oregon
legislature that would have allowed cyclists to treat stop signs as yield signs.
More recently, you may have heard a fellow cyclist make an airy reference to
that "law" as they slipped past you at a stop sign or at a red light. We've had
a few calls from alarmed bikers and angry motorists, wondering what's up. The
real story: the law ain't on the books. <BR><BR>HB 2768, introduced by Eugene
Representative Floyd Prozanski, would have allowed cyclists to slow and yield
the right-of-way, eliminating the need for a foot-down stop, at stop signs and
flashing red lights (not stoplights). Although the bill did pass the House of
Representatives, it didn't make it through the Senate and did not become
law.<BR><BR>Since the bill didn't pass, cyclists are still required to stop at
stop signs, as well as obey all other traffic laws. So, when the sign says
"stop," take a breather, check out the scenery and think of yourself as a biking
ambassador-promoting goodwill toward all cyclists.”</SPAN></DIV>
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class=623394001-25012005>ichael</SPAN></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> markjgi-@yahoo.com
[mailto:markjgi-@yahoo.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 24, 2005 2:45
PM<BR><B>To:</B> george.-@pacificorp.com; OBRA<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[OBRA Chat] Warning: Police are ticketing at NE Broadway and
Flint.<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>George is correct, this was not passed into law.</DIV>
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<DIV>Mark Ginsberg, bike lawyer to the unwary and unfortunate!</DIV>
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<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>"Schreck, George"
<george.-@pacificorp.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=743203022-24012005><FONT face=Arial
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passed.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Shane Young
[mailto:shane.-@comcast.net] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 24, 2005
2:08 PM<BR><B>To:</B> kj_f-@yahoo.com; OBRA<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OBRA
Chat] Warning: Police are ticketing at NE Broadway and
Flint.<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Didn't Oregon just change the law to be that cyclist didn't have to stop
at stop signs, just slow down? Still need to stop at lights, just not
signs? Not the smartest of laws... But if that is the case, I don't
think they can ticket you for not stopping unless traffic was coming and you
impeded the flow of traffic.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV><PRE>To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.
To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org
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