Susan Otcenas

George,



Agreed. Again, for me the debate is not about whether we should or should

not follow the rules. We should. It's about how we get cyclists to

actually DO that.



Susan





-----Original Message-----

From: Schreck, George [mailto:george.-@pacificorp.com]

Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 5:12 PM

To: sus-@teamestrogen.com; CycleO-@yahoogroups.com; obra;

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Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Code of Conduct (long, but hopefully worth your

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I do not think there is much to debate. Our right to use the roads is based

on our being viewed as vehicles. As such, we are required to obey the

traffic laws. If we want equal rights, we must accept the obligations.



Our views about cars or any perceived moral superiority regarding bicycles

does not excuse is from obeying the laws which exist to protect all vehicles

and pedestrians.



Frankly, I cannot see that there is a legitimate reason to run stop signs or

lights. I often sit in my car and see no traffic, yet I wait at the light

or stop at the stop sign. There is no reason why I should behave

differently on my bicycle.