OBRA: OBRA Chat: Junior and Team Track State...

mike.m-@obra.org

2005-01-31

I guess my only response to this can be "So what?" Regardless of what date

any given event is placed on it will conflict with some other event

somewhere in the country. I have a hard time believing that either the

Downer's Grove Criterium Nationals or the Oregon Junior and Team Track

Championships will be diminished by having the events on the same day. How

many people are actually candidates to ride both events?

For the record, Downer's Grove is actually 8/21 ... the day following the

rescheduled Oregon event. Traveling between the two would be a PITA, but

possible for the motivated.

The original scheduled date for the Oregon event conflicted locally with the

State TT Championships (don't say that it was the next day ... there will be

riders who will complain that they couldn't do both). Nationally it

conflicted with the USCF Elite Track Nationals in LA and the ABR Track

Nationals at Kenosha. If we had to choose between conflicting with the

Track Natz and the Crit Natz then it appears that we have decreased the

conflict and competition with USAC rather than the other way around. For

what it is worth, the original date also conflicted with the Bank of America

Invitational on the NRC and doubtless several other bike races around the

country.

Mike Murray

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Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Junior and Team Track State Championships

So again OBRA has to cause conflict and compete with USA cycling. The

weekend for the Junior and Team track championships is NOW the same as the

National Criterium championships in Downer's Grove.

cmur-@obra.org

2005-01-31

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In 2004 OBRA had 312 event days. How can that not conflict with something

somewhere?

How many local track riders went to Downer's Grove last year? My guess is

that it was less than 5

Candi

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So again OBRA has to cause conflict and compete with USA cycling. The

weekend for the Junior and Team track championships is NOW the same as the

National Criterium championships in Downer's Grove.

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<DIV><SPAN class=073125922-31012005>In 2004 OBRA had 312 event days. How

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<DIV><SPAN class=073125922-31012005>How many local track riders went to Downer's

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So again OBRA has to cause conflict and compete with USA cycling. The

weekend for the Junior and Team track championships is NOW the same as the

National Criterium championships in Downer's Grove.

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mike.m-@obra.org

2005-01-31

We are changing the date of the Junior and Team Track State Championships to

8/20/05.

Mike Murray