RE: Chip Seal on Germantown Road before Kaiser

Chris Clemow

2005-08-01

To follow-up on Peter's e-mail (from another engineer's perspective),

chip-seal is used for preventative maintenance - not to fix structural

roadway failure. So... if you notice potholes or significant roadway

cracking (and possibly alligator cracking) it is too far gone for a

chip-seal fix.



This is why it seems agencies are chip-sealing "good" roads. However,

what the agencies can control is the type of aggregate used in the chip

seal - because as noted by many riders, some of it is downright nasty

stuff.



Chris Clemow



   Peter Murphy <murphy_-@hotmail.com> 8/1/2005 9:39:09 AM >>>





Chip seal prolonges the useful life of pavements and seals very fine

cracks

in pavement before they get large enough for water and vegetation to

get

trapped in them. It is a good time for it. It should be done nearly

every 5

years.



I know it gets slick in wet conditions, but just giving you a pavement



engineer's perspective. Flame on.



Pete Murphy



If you wanted to get somewhere and it took you

a long time to get there, would you wanna rush back here?

I didn't think so....Frank Black













 From: "Schreck, George" <george.-@pacificorp.com>

Reply-To: george.-@pacificorp.com

To: jo-@aracnet.com, Ivan.C.-@intel.com

CC: ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Chip Seal on Germantown Road before Kaiser

intersection

Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 09:27:56 -0700



Although that is true, as some of the roads actually were paved

within

 the last few years, the road department will argue that this is

preventive. There probably is some merit to that, but how their

choices

 are made is difficult to determine as there seem to be more deserving

roads for resurfacing. The good news is that it is very small chip

seal, and it is not that bad.



-----Original Message-----

From: jo-@aracnet.com [mailto:jo-@aracnet.com]

Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 9:21 AM

To: Ivan.C.-@intel.com

Cc: ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Chip Seal on Germantown Road before Kaiser

intersection



Meadors, Ivan C wrote:



 They recently chip-sealed Germantown Road between Cornelius Pass

Road

  and the Kaiser intersection (west side of Skyline). Not too

dangerous,

  just unpleasant.



The nimrods that makeup Washington County Road Dept also chipsealed

the

 road

that passes through Roy. Yet the fail to repair Evergreen East of the

Hillsboro Airport. The funny thing is: ALl of the aforementioend

roads

 that were 'fixed' by chipsealing had no problems in the first place.



Well.. outside of the fact that a lot of bicyclists use them on a

daily

 basis.



Joe



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