RE: $ for MTB series in 2006, Saturday races

Randy Dreiling

2006-01-06



There are 3 races in the "Summer" (oakridge, fall city

and lakeview)and all had great sunny days if I

remember right and has I said in one of my many

replies not sure if it was to this or the misinfo post

on my 12 Hour that went into a lot of race issue's

too...if you want other issue's look at my 12 Hour

reply and remember I am not trying to be rude or

whine, just explain what happens every year and how

other think effect race turn out.. Oakridge, Fall

City and Lakview can not race any sooner Oakridge and

Fall City because of spotted owls and Lakeview because

the snow is still on the course until late June.



I am glad this came up



Thanks

Randy





--- RCJoh-@attglobal.net wrote:



 Now we're getting somewhere, interesting analysis.

My questions then,

since you have the data:

For the two seasons what was the difference in the

total number of races

offered prior to the peak period?

Clearly the value of being part of a series is

significant. Was the

number of series races available after May

comparable for both seasons?

Weather has been sited by some as an attendance

factor. I suppose it's

too much to ask that there was some way to analyze

if there was a

correlation with attendance? For instance, could it

be determined if

attendance is better for sunny/warm races or are the

other factors more

significant?



Rick



shane.-@comcast.net wrote:

 Last year did not have a compressed schedule like

years past, at least

 for the series that Randy and Mike put on. Still

there was a

 significate drop in riders for the MTB series the

first week in June. I

 did a simple anlysis from the numbers last year

and the year before that

 Candi supplied. Races that had the greatest turn

out had these things

 in common in order of biggest factor:

were in April and May,

were apart of the high school series,

were apart of the Oregon MTB series,

were on Sunday.

Races in April and May had nearly double the

racers and in some case

 almost triple. Races that were in the high school

series had 40 to 50

 riders more. Races that not apart of the Oregon

MTB series lost 1/4 to

 1/2 of their attendance from years that they were

in the series. Races

 that were on Sunday had more people that races on

Saturday.

 I don't think that the schedule is skewed by any

other factor than sheer

 demand.

-------------- Original message --------------

From: Randy Dreiling <ragg-@yahoo.com>



 Great question...one thing is that JR's stop

racing

  and they can be 15%-30% of the turn out at some

Mt

  Bike races.



Other then that I would love to know the answer.



  

Randy



--- RCJoh-@attglobal.net wrote:



 What I'd really like to know about this

attendance

   drop-off phenomenon

is if it is causative or symptomatic?

In other words - is the cause of the

attendance drop

   off because people

simply don't want to race after that date?

Or is the drop off a symptom of the highly

compressed schedule inducing

burn-out, and therefore, lack of attendance?

I'm not meaning to be argumentative, just that



   clearly understanding the

situation requires an accurate diagnosis.



Rick





Randy Dreiling wrote:

 

Number of racers at Mt Bike races drop by a

HUGE

    amount after May or June every year. Been

promoting

 10 years and you can see the drop.



Thanks

Randy



--- RCJoh-@attglobal.net wrote:





---------------------------------

Sounds good as long as we don't wind up with

yet

    more races stackedfrom late February through

May.

   

 Remember the tread from a few months ago

discussing

 why is the racecalender so heavily weighted

to the

    earliest part of the season andgoes through

the

    doldrums just when the weather is at it's

nicest?

   

 

Rick



brice-@hotmail.com wrote:

Another vote for more Saturday races.Evan

Plews

   wrote:

 



How about some Saturday races for a change.

Doesn't

 anyone go to church on Sunday anymore? Bunch

of

    heathens anyway :)Actually that brings up a

good

    point. Are cyclists generally religious or

not???Kori

 Kunz wrote:



In an attempt to decide which races to focus

on

    (since I would really like to do all of them

but

   know

 that's not a sustainable approach) I'm

wondering

   what

 kinds of MTB series are out there this year,

and

    which one offers the best prize money. Yep,

I'm

   not

 looking for any more trophies on my mantel,

just

   going

 straight for the mercenary incentive. Of

course

   I'll

 also be weighing the amount of single track

in

    proportion to the distance to drive (and

conflicting

 road races), but the dollars will be a very

influential factor. Mike? Randy? Petr? What

are

 you serving up this year? Looking forward to

it.

   

 Cheers, Kori

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