Re: $ for MTB series in 2006, Saturday races

Cheryl J. Willson

2006-01-06



Personally, I would love to get a "Save the Spotted Owl - race in the

summer" t-shirt or something...not that I am planning to race much

this year.



Also, I didn't know that road racing was glamorous!



Anyway, on a more serious note, the mountain bike information is

being consolidated with the rest of the information on the OBRA site.

Mountain bike forms will be on the main forms page, mountain bike

results on the main results page with the rest of the results etc.

The schedule will also be consolidated with the road, track and

cyclocross schedule. If there is a great demand, we can create a

mountain bike "view" of the schedule that will only display mountain

bike races. For now, it is as it has been, "MTB" will be added to

mountain bike race names on the schedule.



Happy January everybody! Go skiing or sledding or something before

its too late!



Cheryl





On Jan 6, 2006, at 4:36 PM, Molly Cameron wrote:



 Randy you put on good events. I think you should include little

bits of

info, like the spotted owl situation on your race flyers. (people love

that kinda stuff, "did you know the spotted owls are killing our

season!" they'll talk about it on rides and it creates interest in

your

events! (that may have been a bad example but, it will help you to

dispel myths about why there are NO mtn races in the early summer.)



Mountain racing in particular lacks the glamor of road and cross and,

thus lacks the allure. We have got to figure out how to make it more

attractive.



You should know I'm not being specifically critical to your events,

just

racing events in general. I'm guilty of it, at our last cross race, I

underadvertised, underprepared and did NOT have the prizes that I

posted

I would have. People were PISSED I did not have the ribbbons and

swag I

printed I would provide. (they would not have cared had I NOT

posted it)

It was a mistake I'll not repeat and gave me great insight into what

more serious (read: dedicated) race promoters have to do to

effectively

put on a killer event.



Mike Murray once said something to me about not having a "core

group" of

racers being the main problem with women's racing. The same is applied

to ALL mountain and track racing. (not just women's racing) If

there is

not a core group of a few people going to ALL the races there are less

chances that new people are going to tag along.



I also think the fact that mountain biking is just fracking hard. (the

hardest type of racing in my book.) It is a challenge just to stay on

your bike at some courses. It is so damn hard that we train all

winter,

get stomped in the wet, miserable spring, get poor results and then

rationalise that spending the $50 to go race Willamette pass, for

example (the fun but, far away, and expensive, I'll have to get a day

off of work early) is not worth it. It is so hard that is turns people

away and it is easier to go do funner (less tiring, less expensive)

stuff in the summer.



Actually I think Willamette pass is one of the funnest races.



Well, back to the point, I'm not totally happy with the "new" Oregon

mountain bike racing website. I NEVER reference it. I still just

use the

OBRA calendar and click directly on the race links from there.



Candi, correct me if I'm wrong but, OBRA will allocate the funds to

have

a nicer website built and maintained. I think we should do it, make it

very, very similar to the current OBRA site in style and content. But

for the mountain bikers.





Randy Dreiling wrote:

 

I agree with Brian and he also in the end noted some

promoters do get the word out...I think the issue is

lumping Mt Bike races in general together is not good.



I also race and I know I do my best to get flyers out

and post reminders in advance on OBRA, but I have had

a hard time finding info on other events too.



Randy



--- Brian Ellin <brian-@gmail.com> wrote:



 As a MTB racer, I feel i should speak up here.



Last year I lost interest in MTB racing as the

season progressed. Why?

Mainly because I felt that the promoters had also

lost interest. I want to

be excited to show up and race. I don't want to

have to scour the web for

information about the race or watch the OBRA list

the Friday before for

directions, all to show up and race against the 5

people who did the same.



An example:

http://www.oregonvelo.com/mtbseries/outback/



What is the course like? Who is sponsoring it? How

long are the laps?

Last year's results? Are we all starting at 1pm?

Prizes? Raffle? Why

should I travel and pay $32 to do a race I know

nothing about? What if i'm

not an internet person?



Compare the MTB race flyers and websites to

something like the cross

crusade's and then look at the turnout. Where is

the effort?



I should note that there were many well promoted and

well executed MTB races

this year. Good job to all the racers and

promoters! I'll be out there

again in 2006, and am trying hard to get my friends

excited about racing

MTB.



Thanks for listening,

Brian Ellin





Veloshop

211 SW 9th ave.

Portland 97205

503.335.Velo

http://www.veloshop.org



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