david baker
hey randy and all,
my favorite two races right now are lakeridge and willamette pass. i like
the beauty of these areas but probably the newness of these races fits in
there too. oh and the climbing!
my point is i do not know who helped you decide to not do xc at willamette
but i would vote for it for sure.
on that other issue i think people also race less later in the year because
some people get bored with the routine of getting beat by the same guy every
week and getting nowhere in their placings etc.
that is too bad
i care about that stuff a lot but the real fun is the race itself and i love
the weather later in the year.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Dreiling" <ragg-@yahoo.com>
To: <shane.-@comcast.net>; <ob-@topica.com>
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 12:33 PM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] MTB races,facts, history, Saturday races....
I have promoted Mt Bike races for 10 years.
Saturday races draw less people.
With what Shane said...good luck finding an open race
weekend.
In fact we cut Willamette Pass XC from our series,
because racers said there were too many races...add to
that, that Hood is promoting something like 12 races
in 2006 and well that pretty much eats up the whole
race season, plus since Cyclocross seems to start
sooner and sooner every year (August now)and is such a
hot sport that is yet another strike against Mt Bike
races.
As I said Mt Bike races before do best before June,
but races such as Oakridge and Fall City are not
allowed until later in the Summer because of spotted
owls...trust me I would love to have Oakridge in April
and get a great turn out if I could but we are not
allowed to race until July and Fall City is not
allowed to race until after Aug 15 because of the
owls.
I really hope to see more of you at Oakridge and Fall
City if you are looking for more mid season events as
started.
Take Care
Randy
--- Shane Young <shane.-@comcast.net> wrote:
If you want a Saturday race, organize it and put it
on... Actions speak louder than words...
So far I think the actions of MTB riders show that
Sunday is the perferred day. In the past couple of
years there have been a couple of races on Saturdays
for MTB. Those races for whatever reason have had a
smaller turn out than the races on Sunday.
As for early season races. Again actions speak
louder than words and the races that happen before
school is out have nearly double the number of
racers.
So if I was a promoter wanting to at least break
even, my race is going to before June and on a day
that there isn't a road race which usually means on
Sunday.
Now don't get me wrong I am not against a race on
Saturday but the numbers just don't justify it.
There are people that will only show up to Saturday
races but just not enough.
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Michael Packard <Michael.-@ch2m.com>
I am a person who is religious and who goes to
Church on Sunday and I would personally like to see
more Saturday races.
As has already been pointed out - don't stack them
at the beginning or end of the season, but spread
them out as evenly as possible.
Are cyclists generally religious? Well, that depends
on how fast you're descending that wet, slippery
hill with the stop sign at the bottom as cross
traffic passes by :)
Personally, I think it's a shame that Sunday has
become just another day of the week and not the "day
of rest and spiritual growth" as it was intended to
be.
Michael
From: Reid, Pam [mailto:pam.-@intel.com]
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:33 AM
To: RCJoh-@attglobal.net; brice-@hotmail.com
Cc: ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] $ for MTB series in 2006,
Saturday races
As a parent of several Junior racers Sunday racing
is great. Most juniors have other sports they play
on Sat. for their schools such as soccer, basketball
etc.
I think the solution is a balance of Sat/Sun races.
From: RCJoh-@attglobal.net
[mailto:RCJoh-@attglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 8:45 AM
To: brice-@hotmail.com
Cc: ob-@topica.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] $ for MTB series in 2006,
Saturday races
Sounds good as long as we don't wind up with yet
more races stacked from late February through May.
Remember the tread from a few months ago discussing
why is the race calender so heavily weighted to the
earliest part of the season and goes through the
doldrums just when the weather is at it's nicest?
Rick
brice-@hotmail.com wrote:
Another vote for more Saturday races.
Evan Plews wrote:
How about some Saturday races for a change. Doesn't
anyone go to church
on Sunday anymore? Bunch of heathens anyway :)
Actually that brings up a good point. Are cyclists
generally religious
or not???
Kori Kunz wrote:
In an attempt to decide which races to focus on
(since I would really
like to do all of them but know that's not a
sustainable approach) I'm
wondering what kinds of MTB series are out there
this year, and which
one offers the best prize money. Yep, I'm not
looking for any more
trophies on my mantel, just going straight for the
mercenary incentive.
Of course I'll also be weighing the amount of
single track in
proportion to the distance to drive (and
conflicting road races), but
the dollars will be a very influential factor.
Mike? Randy? Petr?
What are you serving up this year?
Looking forward to it.
Cheers,
Kori
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