Evan Plews
I should add to my last post...
Randy, Petr, and Mike have always worked hard to make sure there is cash
for the overall at their races. I am not sure it has always been 100%
payout for the category but they have done well to make it worth our
while.
As far a cash for the women go... back to the 100% payout thing... it is
only fair to payout based on attendence for the women, too. When you put
$100 payout on the flier and 1 woman shows up and gets gets paid $100
for finishing the race when her entry fee was $25 it just doesn't make
sense.
We need to promote women in racing but that doesn't justify an
entitlement program. $$$ doesn't = attendence anyway. A promoter I know
once put $300 (1st), $200 (2nd), and $100 (3rd) on a race flier and made
good on his offer. Unfortunately, he couldn't pay the rest of his bills
and fled out of state to avoid the collections folk.
100% payout is the only way to fairly award performance without making
committments promoters can't keep if attendence is low.
Cheers,
EP
Randy Dreiling wrote:
First off we try hard to get more women and support
more women racers...when I am around women at road
races, out on the trails, riding at Willamette Pass,
ect...I tell them about the races and I know other
race promoters and racers do. I always cheer on the
High School women and tell them you should race all
year.
OBRA membership period has a lot more men then women,
so it is not just mt Biking
There was good overall prize money for women last
year...need to ask Mike Ripley how much but no women
raced enough races. The money was there and it was on
the flyers, yet no women went after it.
I personally at the 12 Hour paid men and women the
same...at the FTF I paid based on number of Pro Women
racers...last year that number was zero...year before
that number was 4 and I paid top 3.
That means only one women did not get paid...kinda
crazy to pay 90% of the class...needs to be paid on a
% of racers.
Just to be clear there is no "Elite Women"
class...there is a "Pro women" and they are the only
ones that get paid.
Another issue in the past more at downhills then cross
country, but it still happens...it happened last
year...women that are sport level move up just because
they find out there are no Pro women and they know if
they move up they will get $$$...there really needs to
be a rule to stop this. Use to happen a lot in DH,
until we made a rule...same thing should happen in XC
to be safe.
With that said I have to tell you that 80% of the Pro
women racers say something like pay us what ever you
think is fair based on the number of women racers,
because I know there are a lot less women racing,
please do not put this back on the promoter this comes
from the women themselves.
I find this interesting...does road pay the same for
men and women??? from what I have been told they do
not.
I am thankful for the women racers and I sure the ones
that know me know I am.
Take Care
Randy
--- Molly Cameron <velocy-@yahoo.com> wrote:
Beat me to the punch Kori.
And, in addition to the FTF what about the race
series payouts? I'm all
for equal payouts but, as Randy mentioned earlier, I
don't know if a
single (elite) woman completed the entire mountain
series! (feel free to
correct me)
So, if we can con Randy into paying out an equal or
decent payout to the
elite women racers are you gonna race an entire
series? And bring ten of
your friends?
Please?
Kori Kunz wrote:
And what about the women, Randy?
Randy Dreiling <ragg-@yahoo.com> wrote:
Speaking of that I just got the word today, thanks
to
1st Tech Credit Union the 1st place Pro Men's
winner
will win $250 at the Oakridge FTF this year.
Take Care
Randy
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