Meeting with Portland Police

Luciano bailey

2006-01-09



I think the prospect of increasing the number of citations for cyclists is

totally ludicrous. Why not focus of the potential killers in this case ,out

of control, cell phone latte sipping motorist. PPD is never around when life

is at risk. I for thirty years have narrowly escaped the stupidity of said

drivers who's best reason for almost killing me is they are late for an

appointment or in a hurry to get to a soccer game.Be for real what we need

is a public forum similar to what KATU started by getting on air opions of

cyclists and motorists to see where the real confusion lies. So excuse me if

I am not a believer and don't want to be hit by one more car only to have

PPD tell me they don't respond to those sort of accidents. This may only be

my opinion but the 350,000 non racing miles in cities across the country

gives me an honarary Doctorate from the Urban Cycling University. Sorry I

only meant to give two cents but who uses penies anymore.





 From: "Schreck, George" <george.-@pacificorp.com>

Reply-To: george.-@pacificorp.com

To: OBRA <ob-@topica.com>

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Meeting with Portland Police

Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 13:03:30 -0800



Below are the notes from a meeting between the Lloyd District cyclists

and the Portland Police. The police are committed to making the City

safer for cyclists, with the corresponding requirement that we behave in

accordance with the traffic laws. It seems like a reasonable tradeoff,

and we should obey the traffic laws if we want to use the roads in any

event. It does appear that there will be greater enforcement of the

traffic laws, which is long overdue in my opinion, so start obeying the

laws or there may be costly consequences. Of course, there probably is

no need to tell that to OBRA members as we always obey all the traffic

laws (it is those other cyclists whomever they are).







POLICE COMMANDER SINNOTT MEETS WITH CYCLISTS

The Portland Police Traffic Division Commander shares his thoughts on

bicycling the streets of Portland.



In the wake of a number of highly publicized bicycle fatalities in

Portland over the past summer, members of your LDTMA Bike Committee

sought out a dialogue with the Portland Police on the subject of

bicycle/auto safety. The result was a December 6 presentation by

Commander Bill Sinnott of the Portland Police traffic division. His

message: that Portland will have more bicycles on the street in the

future and that the traffic division must commit to addressing their

safety needs.



Commander Sinnott began with a sobering presentation of the magnitude of

the traffic problem and the meager resources at hand to deal with it.

There are a mere forty-one police officers assigned to the traffic

division; it is so short-staffed that until now the only accidents

investigated are those in which a person is injured badly enough to be

entered into the Oregon Trauma Registry. This standard omits the

possibility of investigating most auto crashes including, crucially,

most bicycle/auto accidents.



However, Commander Sinnott expressed dissatisfaction with this standard

and vowed to create a system that would account for the disparate danger

faced by the cyclist in traffic. The focus of the traffic division,

Sinnott said, is changing from one that is focused on cars to one that

looks at how cars, bicycles and pedestrians share city streets. He

stated that the Portland police needed to look at traffic more

"holistically" and that such an approach has never been tried in

Portland before.



However, he cautioned, more attention to bicycle activity will also mean

an increase in the number of tickets written to cyclists who fail to

obey the law. Already the Portland Police have set up sting operations

in key areas and have cited cyclists who violate laws to the degree that

they endanger themselves and those around them. The fines can be steep;

for example, riding at night without a light could incur a $94 fine.



Sinnott reminded cyclists that Portland has a hotline for reporting

dangerous traffic situations. He urged cyclists to call 823-SAFE (7233)

and report any areas in which dangerous activity occurs. Sinnott

assured the audience that every report file is investigated as time

allows.



Accompanying Sinnott for the presentation were District Attorney Wayne

Pearson, Commander Bret Smith of the NE Precinct, Sgt Dan Parks of the

traffic division and officers Traynor and Alderman of the NE Precinct.





The presentation turned to bicycle theft, and Commander Sinnott noted

that there had been a drop of greater than 50% in bike theft in Portland

since 2003. A map of the Lloyd District was distributed that marked the

hot spots where most of the 46 bike thefts this year had occurred; half

at the Lloyd Center. Officers from the NE Precinct warned cyclists that

bike thieves are by no means sophisticated and that most of them sell

the bike they steal for the ten dollars needed to purchase drugs that

day. Police also noted a decline in the number of cyclists who do not

know their bicycle's serial number and who do not use local and national

bike registration services. Without such information, it is impossible

to return a recover bike to its rightful owner.





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Schreck, George

2006-01-09

Below are the notes from a meeting between the Lloyd District cyclists

and the Portland Police. The police are committed to making the City

safer for cyclists, with the corresponding requirement that we behave in

accordance with the traffic laws. It seems like a reasonable tradeoff,

and we should obey the traffic laws if we want to use the roads in any

event. It does appear that there will be greater enforcement of the

traffic laws, which is long overdue in my opinion, so start obeying the

laws or there may be costly consequences. Of course, there probably is

no need to tell that to OBRA members as we always obey all the traffic

laws (it is those other cyclists whomever they are).







POLICE COMMANDER SINNOTT MEETS WITH CYCLISTS

The Portland Police Traffic Division Commander shares his thoughts on

bicycling the streets of Portland.



In the wake of a number of highly publicized bicycle fatalities in

Portland over the past summer, members of your LDTMA Bike Committee

sought out a dialogue with the Portland Police on the subject of

bicycle/auto safety. The result was a December 6 presentation by

Commander Bill Sinnott of the Portland Police traffic division. His

message: that Portland will have more bicycles on the street in the

future and that the traffic division must commit to addressing their

safety needs.



Commander Sinnott began with a sobering presentation of the magnitude of

the traffic problem and the meager resources at hand to deal with it.

There are a mere forty-one police officers assigned to the traffic

division; it is so short-staffed that until now the only accidents

investigated are those in which a person is injured badly enough to be

entered into the Oregon Trauma Registry. This standard omits the

possibility of investigating most auto crashes including, crucially,

most bicycle/auto accidents.



However, Commander Sinnott expressed dissatisfaction with this standard

and vowed to create a system that would account for the disparate danger

faced by the cyclist in traffic. The focus of the traffic division,

Sinnott said, is changing from one that is focused on cars to one that

looks at how cars, bicycles and pedestrians share city streets. He

stated that the Portland police needed to look at traffic more

"holistically" and that such an approach has never been tried in

Portland before.



However, he cautioned, more attention to bicycle activity will also mean

an increase in the number of tickets written to cyclists who fail to

obey the law. Already the Portland Police have set up sting operations

in key areas and have cited cyclists who violate laws to the degree that

they endanger themselves and those around them. The fines can be steep;

for example, riding at night without a light could incur a $94 fine.



Sinnott reminded cyclists that Portland has a hotline for reporting

dangerous traffic situations. He urged cyclists to call 823-SAFE (7233)

and report any areas in which dangerous activity occurs. Sinnott

assured the audience that every report file is investigated as time

allows.



Accompanying Sinnott for the presentation were District Attorney Wayne

Pearson, Commander Bret Smith of the NE Precinct, Sgt Dan Parks of the

traffic division and officers Traynor and Alderman of the NE Precinct.





The presentation turned to bicycle theft, and Commander Sinnott noted

that there had been a drop of greater than 50% in bike theft in Portland

since 2003. A map of the Lloyd District was distributed that marked the

hot spots where most of the 46 bike thefts this year had occurred; half

at the Lloyd Center. Officers from the NE Precinct warned cyclists that

bike thieves are by no means sophisticated and that most of them sell

the bike they steal for the ten dollars needed to purchase drugs that

day. Police also noted a decline in the number of cyclists who do not

know their bicycle's serial number and who do not use local and national

bike registration services. Without such information, it is impossible

to return a recover bike to its rightful owner.





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