OBRA: OBRA Chat: Racing For Pies?

Luciano bailey

2006-01-16

Another small tidbit my sons first real road race was at cherry pie and he

road like heck after almost not being allowed to race(he was only eight) to

chase another kid down to win that last pie. I'm sure he'll ALWAYS REMEMBER

THAT PIE although long gone it means as much to him as any gold medal he has

won.

From: Heather VanValkenburg <hvan-@msn.com>

Reply-To: hvan-@msn.com

To: theshu-@yahoo.com, ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:07:41 -0800

Shucker-

Please do not underestimate the power of and love for pie.... It only takes

one bite of that yummy goodness after the race.

http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/pie.htm

-Heather VanValkenburg

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From: Jason Shucker <theshu-@yahoo.com>

Reply-To: theshu-@yahoo.com

To: OBRA <ob-@topica.com>

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:43:50 -0800 (PST)

Hello OBRA,

   I am usually not one to complain about payouts at bike races because I

do race for fun, however the Cherry Pie Road Race just bugs me. I have

heard the past couple years it is the biggest road race of the year in

reguards to attendance, yet all you get for placing is a CHERRY PIE??? You

train all winter, and if you place all you get is a pie? No one else as a

problem with this?

   What do other people think of this? I know a couple weeks ago there was

some talk about prize lists and payouts at races. Why do so many people

show up especially people from out of state to race for Pies?

   Maybe OBRA people just like racing for pies, and in order to increase

summer race attendence promoters should drop cash prizes and give away

pies!

   I do want to thank the promoter for putting on such a great event, and

taking the time out the their schedule to put on the event, I would just

like to see you do better then donated pies as your prize list.

   Shucker

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Schreck, George

2006-01-16

If you say you race for fun, then why are you complaining? It seems

silly after all the time and money we spend on the sport, that anyone

would care about winnng a few dollars. If money means that much, the

best economic decision you could make is to give up bike racing, because

the expense and time far outweighs any prize money you could win.

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From: Jason Shucker [mailto:theshu-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:44 PM

To: OBRA

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

Hello OBRA,

I am usually not one to complain about payouts at bike races because I

do race for fun, however the Cherry Pie Road Race just bugs me. I have

heard the past couple years it is the biggest road race of the year in

reguards to attendance, yet all you get for placing is a CHERRY PIE???

You train all winter, and if you place all you get is a pie? No one

else as a problem with this?

What do other people think of this? I know a couple weeks ago there was

some talk about prize lists and payouts at races. Why do so many people

show up especially people from out of state to race for Pies?

Maybe OBRA people just like racing for pies, and in order to increase

summer race attendence promoters should drop cash prizes and give away

pies!

I do want to thank the promoter for putting on such a great event, an! d

taking the time out the their schedule to put on the event, I would just

like to see you do better then donated pies as your prize list.

Shucker

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.David.Auker.

2006-01-16

Thanks for remembering, Mike! We gave handmade awesome cake (Piece of

Cake RR), with additional cash and merchandise. I don't want to brag

for Sarah, but the food was(is) awesome. I once dipped my face into a

bowl of her chocolate mousse on a $5.00 dare, and ... I "won" two ways!

True, food at a race is super, but are you guys on the verge of actually

complaining if there's cash?

David

Micro-@aol.com wrote:

If we could only get Sarah Auker to bake the pies, you would probably

never hear another complaint.

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2006-01-16

Shucker-

Please do not underestimate the power of and love for pie.... It only takes

one bite of that yummy goodness after the race.

http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/pie.htm

-Heather VanValkenburg

----Original Message Follows----

From: Jason Shucker <theshu-@yahoo.com>

Reply-To: theshu-@yahoo.com

To: OBRA <ob-@topica.com>

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:43:50 -0800 (PST)

Hello OBRA,

   I am usually not one to complain about payouts at bike races because I do

race for fun, however the Cherry Pie Road Race just bugs me. I have heard

the past couple years it is the biggest road race of the year in reguards to

attendance, yet all you get for placing is a CHERRY PIE??? You train all

winter, and if you place all you get is a pie? No one else as a problem

with this?

   What do other people think of this? I know a couple weeks ago there was

some talk about prize lists and payouts at races. Why do so many people

show up especially people from out of state to race for Pies?

   Maybe OBRA people just like racing for pies, and in order to increase

summer race attendence promoters should drop cash prizes and give away pies!

   I do want to thank the promoter for putting on such a great event, and

taking the time out the their schedule to put on the event, I would just

like to see you do better then donated pies as your prize list.

   Shucker

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2006-01-16

If we could only get Sara Auker to bake the pies, you would probably never

hear another complaint.

Daniel Watson

2006-01-16

Hello all,

Rude remarks, and personal jabs aside (see below) lets

just all try and have a safe race this year. remember

its the first race, we are ametures, so sprinting like

crazy in the cat 4 race(or any cat) for 12th place

isn't worth a broken collarbone or worse.

my $.02

Dan Watson

--- "Collis, Randall (EUGENE, OR)"

<randall-@ml.com> wrote:

Cheers to Augusto, Erik and Mike!!!

As for Jason and all those who have stepped onto the

complainers podium, here is to a race season filled

with flats and mechanicals.

Have you addressed the promoter of the race directly

about your issues with his race? I think not!

Please provide your bosses name and phone number so

the next time he or she wants to criticize you they

can do so over the company blast email or overhead

paging system.

As far as the level of prizes, you have got to be

kidding. We are amateurs who ride for the love of

the sport. The sheer fact we get any accolades at

all is pure icing on the cake.

Randall

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-----Original Message-----

From: augusto.-@terra.com.br

To: eri-@fusium.com; ob-@topica.com

CC: 'Jason Lesh'

Sent: Mon Jan 16 20:47:34 2006

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

Would the promoter of Cherry Pie RR please contact

me? I'd be happy to donate some coffee to go with

them Cherry Pies :-)

Augusto

www.familyroast.com

   _____

From: Erik Voldengen [mailto:eri-@fusium.com]

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 4:57 PM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

I think that's way out of line to complain.

It takes a lot of effort to organize a road event.

Almost nobody here races for a living. If you are

someone who does, I'd think you'd be racing

elsewhere.

And it's their thing - Pies. Yeah it's kind of

cheesy, but no where close to the cheesiness you

just displayed, in my opinion.

-Erik

   _____

From: Jason Shucker [mailto:theshu-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:44 PM

To: OBRA

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

Hello OBRA,

I am usually not one to complain about payouts at

bike races because I do race for fun, however the

Cherry Pie Road Race just bugs me. I have heard the

past couple years it is the biggest road race of the

year in reguards to attendance, yet all you get for

placing is a CHERRY PIE??? You train all winter,

and if you place all you get is a pie? No one else

as a problem with this?

What do other people think of this? I know a couple

weeks ago there was some talk about prize lists and

payouts at races. Why do so many people show up

especially people from out of state to race for

Pies?

Maybe OBRA people just like racing for pies, and in

order to increase summer race attendence promoters

should drop cash prizes and give away pies!

I do want to thank the promoter for putting on such

a great event, and taking the time out the their

schedule to put on the event, I would just like to

see you do better then donated pies as your prize

list.

Shucker

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Brian L

2006-01-16

Keith, you can race in the 3 only (or 4 only?) field if you like. You are

mistaken, they are not combined this year.

As Martin points out, you actually have lots of options. Please take a look

at the flyer.

-----Original Message-----

From: martin cohen [mailto:mc-@gorge.net]

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 5:24 PM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

Well there's where you're making a mistake, Keith! Any fixed gear racer

has the opportunity to race in the only OBRA fixed gear road race at

Cherry Pie, provided they're still having that field.

Do it and you'll also have the pleasure of lining up against others that

love riding fixed, even cat 1's and 2's. It was on my list of 'to do'

races this year, at least until I had a stroke 4 weeks ago today.

Thankfully I'm better now and am just about ready to resume road riding.

Marty

Keith A. Prior wrote:

Well now that someone brought this race up I will give my worthless

opinion

on it.

For me the biggest problem with that race is combining the 3's and 4's

to

make a field of well over 100 for the first race of the year. YIKES!

I will never do the Cherry Pie race again as I am not man enough to ride

the

1/2/3.

Make sure you line up EARLY for that 3/4 race kids or you will be stuck

in

accordion land!!

-K

   -----Original Message-----

   From: Jason Shucker [mailto:theshu-@yahoo.com]

   Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:44 PM

   To: OBRA

   Subject: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

   Hello OBRA,

   I am usually not one to complain about payouts at bike races because I

   do

race for fun, however the Cherry Pie Road Race just bugs me. I have

heard

the past couple years it is the biggest road race of the year in

reguards to

attendance, yet all you get for placing is a CHERRY PIE??? You train

all

winter, and if you place all you get is a pie? No one else as a problem

with this?

   What do other people think of this? I know a couple weeks ago there was

some talk about prize lists and payouts at races. Why do so many people

show up especially people from out of state to race for Pies?

   Maybe OBRA people just like racing for pies, and in order to increase

summer race attendence promoters should drop cash prizes and give away

pies!

   I do want to thank the promoter for putting on such a great event, and

taking the time out the their schedule to put on the event, I would just

like to see you do better then donated pies as your prize list.

   Shucker

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Dan Houghton

2006-01-16

Shucker,

That seems like an easy supply & demand deal. If people didn't want to race their guts out for baked goods, the race would have poor attendance. Other events that have cash money prizes have low attendance. Go figure. Vote with your feet.

----- Original Message -----

From: Jason Shucker

To: OBRA

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:43 PM

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

Hello OBRA,

I am usually not one to complain about payouts at bike races because I do race for fun, however the Cherry Pie Road Race just bugs me. I have heard the past couple years it is the biggest road race of the year in reguards to attendance, yet all you get for placing is a CHERRY PIE??? You train all winter, and if you place all you get is a pie? No one else as a problem with this?

What do other people think of this? I know a couple weeks ago there was some talk about prize lists and payouts at races. Why do so many people show up especially people from out of state to race for Pies?

Maybe OBRA people just like racing for pies, and in order to increase summer race attendence promoters should drop cash prizes and give away pies!

I do want to thank the promoter for putting on such a great event, and taking the time out the their schedule to put on the event, I would just like to see you do better then donated pies as your prize list.

Shucker

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2006-01-16

So Mr. Schuckster, have you learned a lesson from your itchy trigger

fingers?

Collis, Randall (EUGENE, OR) wrote:

Cheers to Augusto, Erik and Mike!!!

As for Jason and all those who have stepped onto the complainers podium,

here is to a race season filled with flats and mechanicals.

Have you addressed the promoter of the race directly about your issues

with his race? I think not! Please provide your bosses name and phone

number so the next time he or she wants to criticize you they can do so

over the company blast email or overhead paging system.

As far as the level of prizes, you have got to be kidding. We are

amateurs who ride for the love of the sport. The sheer fact we get any

accolades at all is pure icing on the cake.

Randall

--------------------------

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-----Original Message-----

From: augusto.-@terra.com.br

To: eri-@fusium.com; ob-@topica.com

CC: 'Jason Lesh'

Sent: Mon Jan 16 20:47:34 2006

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

Would the promoter of Cherry Pie RR please contact me? I'd be happy to

donate some coffee to go with them Cherry Pies :-)

Augusto

www.familyroast.com

   _____

From: Erik Voldengen [mailto:eri-@fusium.com]

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 4:57 PM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

I think that's way out of line to complain.

It takes a lot of effort to organize a road event. Almost nobody here

races for a living. If you are someone who does, I'd think you'd be

racing elsewhere.

And it's their thing - Pies. Yeah it's kind of cheesy, but no where

close to the cheesiness you just displayed, in my opinion.

-Erik

   _____

From: Jason Shucker [mailto:theshu-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:44 PM

To: OBRA

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

Hello OBRA,

I am usually not one to complain about payouts at bike races because I

do race for fun, however the Cherry Pie Road Race just bugs me. I have

heard the past couple years it is the biggest road race of the year in

reguards to attendance, yet all you get for placing is a CHERRY PIE???

You train all winter, and if you place all you get is a pie? No one

else as a problem with this?

What do other people think of this? I know a couple weeks ago there was

some talk about prize lists and payouts at races. Why do so many people

show up especially people from out of state to race for Pies?

Maybe OBRA people just like racing for pies, and in order to increase

summer race attendence promoters should drop cash prizes and give away

pies!

I do want to thank the promoter for putting on such a great event, and

taking the time out the their schedule to put on the event, I would just

like to see you do better then donated pies as your prize list.

Shucker

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Collis, Randall (EUGENE, OR)

2006-01-16

Cheers to Augusto, Erik and Mike!!!

As for Jason and all those who have stepped onto the complainers podium, here is to a race season filled with flats and mechanicals.

Have you addressed the promoter of the race directly about your issues with his race? I think not! Please provide your bosses name and phone number so the next time he or she wants to criticize you they can do so over the company blast email or overhead paging system.

As far as the level of prizes, you have got to be kidding. We are amateurs who ride for the love of the sport. The sheer fact we get any accolades at all is pure icing on the cake.

Randall

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-----Original Message-----

From: augusto.-@terra.com.br

To: eri-@fusium.com; ob-@topica.com

CC: 'Jason Lesh'

Sent: Mon Jan 16 20:47:34 2006

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

Would the promoter of Cherry Pie RR please contact me? I'd be happy to donate some coffee to go with them Cherry Pies :-)

Augusto

www.familyroast.com

_____

From: Erik Voldengen [mailto:eri-@fusium.com]

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 4:57 PM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

I think that's way out of line to complain.

It takes a lot of effort to organize a road event. Almost nobody here races for a living. If you are someone who does, I'd think you'd be racing elsewhere.

And it's their thing - Pies. Yeah it's kind of cheesy, but no where close to the cheesiness you just displayed, in my opinion.

-Erik

_____

From: Jason Shucker [mailto:theshu-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:44 PM

To: OBRA

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

Hello OBRA,

I am usually not one to complain about payouts at bike races because I do race for fun, however the Cherry Pie Road Race just bugs me. I have heard the past couple years it is the biggest road race of the year in reguards to attendance, yet all you get for placing is a CHERRY PIE??? You train all winter, and if you place all you get is a pie? No one else as a problem with this?

What do other people think of this? I know a couple weeks ago there was some talk about prize lists and payouts at races. Why do so many people show up especially people from out of state to race for Pies?

Maybe OBRA people just like racing for pies, and in order to increase summer race attendence promoters should drop cash prizes and give away pies!

I do want to thank the promoter for putting on such a great event, and taking the time out the their schedule to put on the event, I would just like to see you do better then donated pies as your prize list.

Shucker

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Would the promoter of Cherry Pie RR please contact me? I'd be happy to

donate some coffee to go with them Cherry Pies :-)

Augusto

www.familyroast.com

_____

From: Erik Voldengen [mailto:eri-@fusium.com]

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 4:57 PM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

I think that's way out of line to complain.

It takes a lot of effort to organize a road event. Almost nobody here races

for a living. If you are someone who does, I'd think you'd be racing

elsewhere.

And it's their thing - Pies. Yeah it's kind of cheesy, but no where close

to the cheesiness you just displayed, in my opinion.

-Erik

_____

From: Jason Shucker [mailto:theshu-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:44 PM

To: OBRA

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

Hello OBRA,

I am usually not one to complain about payouts at bike races because I do

race for fun, however the Cherry Pie Road Race just bugs me. I have heard

the past couple years it is the biggest road race of the year in reguards to

attendance, yet all you get for placing is a CHERRY PIE??? You train all

winter, and if you place all you get is a pie? No one else as a problem

with this?

What do other people think of this? I know a couple weeks ago there was

some talk about prize lists and payouts at races. Why do so many people

show up especially people from out of state to race for Pies?

Maybe OBRA people just like racing for pies, and in order to increase summer

race attendence promoters should drop cash prizes and give away pies!

I do want to thank the promoter for putting on such a great event, and

taking the time out the their schedule to put on the event, I would just

like to see you do better then donated pies as your prize list.

Shucker

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Luciano bailey

2006-01-16

Come On now it's the first race of the year and a classic event the pie is

symbolic and alot of us are very happy to get one if at all it's too early

in the season to be worried about payouts just my two cents. Need payouts

California has some races for you. Or better yet the Aussie New Zealand

season is in full swing.

From: Jason Shucker <theshu-@yahoo.com>

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To: OBRA <ob-@topica.com>

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:43:50 -0800 (PST)

Hello OBRA,

   I am usually not one to complain about payouts at bike races because I

do race for fun, however the Cherry Pie Road Race just bugs me. I have

heard the past couple years it is the biggest road race of the year in

reguards to attendance, yet all you get for placing is a CHERRY PIE??? You

train all winter, and if you place all you get is a pie? No one else as a

problem with this?

   What do other people think of this? I know a couple weeks ago there was

some talk about prize lists and payouts at races. Why do so many people

show up especially people from out of state to race for Pies?

   Maybe OBRA people just like racing for pies, and in order to increase

summer race attendence promoters should drop cash prizes and give away

pies!

   I do want to thank the promoter for putting on such a great event, and

taking the time out the their schedule to put on the event, I would just

like to see you do better then donated pies as your prize list.

   Shucker

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2006-01-16

Well there's where you're making a mistake, Keith! Any fixed gear racer

has the opportunity to race in the only OBRA fixed gear road race at

Cherry Pie, provided they're still having that field.

Do it and you'll also have the pleasure of lining up against others that

love riding fixed, even cat 1's and 2's. It was on my list of 'to do'

races this year, at least until I had a stroke 4 weeks ago today.

Thankfully I'm better now and am just about ready to resume road riding.

Marty

Keith A. Prior wrote:

Well now that someone brought this race up I will give my worthless

opinion

on it.

For me the biggest problem with that race is combining the 3's and 4's

to

make a field of well over 100 for the first race of the year. YIKES!

I will never do the Cherry Pie race again as I am not man enough to ride

the

1/2/3.

Make sure you line up EARLY for that 3/4 race kids or you will be stuck

in

accordion land!!

-K

   -----Original Message-----

   From: Jason Shucker [mailto:theshu-@yahoo.com]

   Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:44 PM

   To: OBRA

   Subject: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

   Hello OBRA,

   I am usually not one to complain about payouts at bike races because I

   do

race for fun, however the Cherry Pie Road Race just bugs me. I have

heard

the past couple years it is the biggest road race of the year in

reguards to

attendance, yet all you get for placing is a CHERRY PIE??? You train

all

winter, and if you place all you get is a pie? No one else as a problem

with this?

   What do other people think of this? I know a couple weeks ago there was

some talk about prize lists and payouts at races. Why do so many people

show up especially people from out of state to race for Pies?

   Maybe OBRA people just like racing for pies, and in order to increase

summer race attendence promoters should drop cash prizes and give away

pies!

   I do want to thank the promoter for putting on such a great event, and

taking the time out the their schedule to put on the event, I would just

like to see you do better then donated pies as your prize list.

   Shucker

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2006-01-16

Sounds like someone has never won a pie.

From: Jason Shucker <theshu-@yahoo.com>

Reply-To: theshu-@yahoo.com

To: OBRA <ob-@topica.com>

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:43:50 -0800 (PST)

Hello OBRA,

   I am usually not one to complain about payouts at bike races because I

do race for fun, however the Cherry Pie Road Race just bugs me. I have

heard the past couple years it is the biggest road race of the year in

reguards to attendance, yet all you get for placing is a CHERRY PIE??? You

train all winter, and if you place all you get is a pie? No one else as a

problem with this?

   What do other people think of this? I know a couple weeks ago there was

some talk about prize lists and payouts at races. Why do so many people

show up especially people from out of state to race for Pies?

   Maybe OBRA people just like racing for pies, and in order to increase

summer race attendence promoters should drop cash prizes and give away

pies!

   I do want to thank the promoter for putting on such a great event, and

taking the time out the their schedule to put on the event, I would just

like to see you do better then donated pies as your prize list.

   Shucker

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Keith A. Prior

2006-01-16

Well now that someone brought this race up I will give my worthless opinion

on it.

For me the biggest problem with that race is combining the 3's and 4's to

make a field of well over 100 for the first race of the year. YIKES!

I will never do the Cherry Pie race again as I am not man enough to ride the

1/2/3.

Make sure you line up EARLY for that 3/4 race kids or you will be stuck in

accordion land!!

-K

-----Original Message-----

From: Jason Shucker [mailto:theshu-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:44 PM

To: OBRA

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

Hello OBRA,

I am usually not one to complain about payouts at bike races because I do

race for fun, however the Cherry Pie Road Race just bugs me. I have heard

the past couple years it is the biggest road race of the year in reguards to

attendance, yet all you get for placing is a CHERRY PIE??? You train all

winter, and if you place all you get is a pie? No one else as a problem

with this?

What do other people think of this? I know a couple weeks ago there was

some talk about prize lists and payouts at races. Why do so many people

show up especially people from out of state to race for Pies?

Maybe OBRA people just like racing for pies, and in order to increase

summer race attendence promoters should drop cash prizes and give away pies!

I do want to thank the promoter for putting on such a great event, and

taking the time out the their schedule to put on the event, I would just

like to see you do better then donated pies as your prize list.

Shucker

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shane.-@comcast.net

2006-01-16

Maybe it just goes to show that most people aren't interested in payout, just a good race.

Build it and they will come... in this case, put on a good event on a good course and they will come.

-------------- Original message --------------

From: Jason Shucker <theshu-@yahoo.com>

Hello OBRA,

I am usually not one to complain about payouts at bike races because I do race for fun, however the Cherry Pie Road Race just bugs me. I have heard the past couple years it is the biggest road race of the year in reguards to attendance, yet all you get for placing is a CHERRY PIE??? You train all winter, and if you place all you get is a pie? No one else as a problem with this?

What do other people think of this? I know a couple weeks ago there was some talk about prize lists and payouts at races. Why do so many people show up especially people from out of state to race for Pies?

Maybe OBRA people just like racing for pies, and in order to increase summer race attendence promoters should drop cash prizes and give away pies!

I do want to thank the promoter for putting on such a great event, and taking the time out the their schedule to put on the event, I would just like to see you do better then donated pies as your prize list.

Shucker

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Math-@dowa.com

2006-01-16

You must not have won a pie yet.

mathew braun

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portland, or 97204

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From: Jason Shucker [mailto:theshu-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:44 PM

To: OBRA

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

Hello OBRA,

I am usually not one to complain about payouts at bike races because I

do race for fun, however the Cherry Pie Road Race just bugs me. I have

heard the past couple years it is the biggest road race of the year in

reguards to attendance, yet all you get for placing is a CHERRY PIE???

You train all winter, and if you place all you get is a pie? No one

else as a problem with this?

What do other people think of this? I know a couple weeks ago there was

some talk about prize lists and payouts at races. Why do so many people

show up especially people from out of state to race for Pies?

Maybe OBRA people just like racing for pies, and in order to increase

summer race attendence promoters should drop cash prizes and give away

pies!

I do want to thank the promoter for putting on such a great event, and

taking the time out the their schedule to put on the event, I would just

like to see you do better then donated pies as your prize list.

Shucker

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eri-@fusium.com

2006-01-16

I think that's way out of line to complain.

It takes a lot of effort to organize a road event. Almost nobody here races

for a living. If you are someone who does, I'd think you'd be racing

elsewhere.

And it's their thing - Pies. Yeah it's kind of cheesy, but no where close

to the cheesiness you just displayed, in my opinion.

-Erik

_____

From: Jason Shucker [mailto:theshu-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:44 PM

To: OBRA

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

Hello OBRA,

I am usually not one to complain about payouts at bike races because I do

race for fun, however the Cherry Pie Road Race just bugs me. I have heard

the past couple years it is the biggest road race of the year in reguards to

attendance, yet all you get for placing is a CHERRY PIE??? You train all

winter, and if you place all you get is a pie? No one else as a problem

with this?

What do other people think of this? I know a couple weeks ago there was

some talk about prize lists and payouts at races. Why do so many people

show up especially people from out of state to race for Pies?

Maybe OBRA people just like racing for pies, and in order to increase summer

race attendence promoters should drop cash prizes and give away pies!

I do want to thank the promoter for putting on such a great event, and

taking the time out the their schedule to put on the event, I would just

like to see you do better then donated pies as your prize list.

Shucker

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2006-01-16

I do not have any problem with it. This is amateur racing. It is fund

raising for their club. If you feel that way, then just don't go

Candi

-----Original Message-----

From: Jason Shucker [mailto:theshu-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:44 PM

To: OBRA

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Racing For Pies?

Hello OBRA,

I am usually not one to complain about payouts at bike races because I do

race for fun, however the Cherry Pie Road Race just bugs me. I have heard

the past couple years it is the biggest road race of the year in reguards to

attendance, yet all you get for placing is a CHERRY PIE??? You train all

winter, and if you place all you get is a pie? No one else as a problem

with this?

What do other people think of this? I know a couple weeks ago there was

some talk about prize lists and payouts at races. Why do so many people

show up especially people from out of state to race for Pies?

Maybe OBRA people just like racing for pies, and in order to increase summer

race attendence promoters should drop cash prizes and give away pies!

I do want to thank the promoter for putting on such a great event, and

taking the time out the their schedule to put on the event, I would just

like to see you do better then donated pies as your prize list.

Shucker

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2006-01-16

Hello OBRA,



I am usually not one to complain about payouts at bike races because I do race for fun, however the Cherry Pie Road Race just bugs me. I have heard the past couple years it is the biggest road race of the year in reguards to attendance, yet all you get for placing is a CHERRY PIE??? You train all winter, and if you place all you get is a pie? No one else as a problem with this?



What do other people think of this? I know a couple weeks ago there was some talk about prize lists and payouts at races. Why do so many people show up especially people from out of state to race for Pies?



Maybe OBRA people just like racing for pies, and in order to increase summer race attendence promoters should drop cash prizes and give away pies!



I do want to thank the promoter for putting on such a great event, and taking the time out the their schedule to put on the event, I would just like to see you do better then donated pies as your prize list.



Shucker

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