Hormann, Douglas J.
I like the zip tie method also. What I especially like is that Home
Depot sells a huge assortment of them in big jars for only a few bucks.
Doug Hormann
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From: john schmidt [mailto:twotireti-@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 11:08 AM
To: ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Rain Flap Tip / stuff flying off cars
Ahh Tom...
Lets see. Each plastic tie has a rating of what a couple hundred
pounds. I put three in each hole, so 18 total.
This means I could lift my whole F'ing car by the ski rack !!! and the
plastic ties wont break..
But seriously, You do make a good point, a point I think i made here
before. Secure your Load !!! Things flying off or out of vehicles
could kill someone.
Good Lord my tip is simple !! That was the point. Drill a couple
holes and stitch on the the flap ! This is not complicated.
duct tape although just as simple does not reach down far enough in most
cases. although definitely better than nothing.
John
Thomas Hoffman wrote:
I picked up a cool trucker mud flap at Bike Gallery last year. I Love
it!
Easy to install and does the job, did I mention it's a TRUCKER Mud
Flap
with a Chrome Lady and everything? My daughter hid it from me so I
couldn't put it on my bike.
"Actually my ski rack is held on to the roof of my car right now with
plastic ties...'
Note to self...
DO NOT follow John when driving to the mountain.
Seriously, the damage to your toys should be the least of your
worries,
the
guy in the car behind you is worth more than the money you saved on
your
ski
rack.
Tom
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From: john schmidt [mailto:twotireti-@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 10:44 AM
To: Evan MacKenzie; ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Rain Flap Tip
Well my tip is for people who do not want to deal with the hassle of
bolting
since:
Now you're looking at 15 minutes to half hour to install using a bolt
versus
less than just a couple minutes.
Now you are looking at more weight equals higher chance of fender
breaking
and vibrating.
Milk jug plastic is extremely flexible and tough and cheap and readily
available. There is no need to twist it up for placing on rack. It
will
flex. You want the weak part to be the flap not your fender ! A
plastic
tied flap is typically on much more securely then with a bolt, (the
"joint"
is spread out versus concentrated forces..unless you use curved fender
washers with the bolt method or fabricated sheet metal "washer" which
only
add more weight to vibrate and more fabrication time, yes I know by
experience... )
And if the flap really gets in the way, well snip the ties and take
off
the
flap, and reinstall later. plastic tie are cheap.
But I also ride my bike and rarely give my bicycle a ride. especially
in
the
winter.
I've mounted a whole fender with plastic ties (well except for the
steel
rods from the eyelets of course) by stratagically drilling holes and
combining the plastic ties..
And then if you get the real big plastic ties they make good handcuffs
too.
Actually my ski rack rack is held on to the roof of my car right now
with
plastic ties...
John
Evan MacKenzie <eva-@ci.hillsboro.or.us> wrote:
All sounds good except...
I prefer to actually bolt mine to the existing fender. This allows the
attached piece, be it half an old water bottle or whatever, to rotate.
That way you can twist it up. If your fender extension on the front
fender does not rotate, forget putting the bike on pretty much any
fork
mount roof rack with a tray to the rear wheel.
Evan
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-----Original Message-----
From: john schmidt [mailto:twotireti-@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 9:59 AM
To: ob-@topica.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Rain Flap Tip
I thought I would share
putting those rain flaps the bottom of back fender is is nice for
group
riding and the flap in the front keeps feet dryer and your chain much
much cleaner.
I found the easiest way to mount flaps is to just drill a couple holes
and "stitch" on the flaps with plastic ties. (this shouldn't take you
more than 5 minutes)
1. Find an old milk jug or similar plastic (you want light weight).
2. Cut out a strip (you can always trim later..)
3. Tape to fender (to hold in place for drilling)
4. Drill two vertically aligned holes about 1/2" apart on each "side"
of the fenders. four holes total. ( 1/8" or larger drill?) Remove the
wheel so you don't accidently drill into your tire !!!
5. run Plastic ties through the holes... Wire could work too,
basically you are just stitching the flap to the fender.
The concavity of the fender will "stiffen" the flap. But I've found
even
if it doesn't it still works just fine if long enough. you can also
drill holes down the length of the flap and run a wire through and
down
or double up the plastic. You want these things almost all the way to
the ground.
I found in general, plastic ties
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