Josh Wiggins
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For training at ADT in LA where I now live - it is anywhere from =20
$10-20 a session with the ability to buy passes and also get =20
discounts if you are a member of a club or team that helps at the track.
You can pretty much train there most days a week if you wish.
Also unless you are a cat 1 or pro track rider you have to take a =20
certification class which is $65 to be able to ride it regardless of =20
how many track races you have done.
They also have the rule if you go down on the track in a session you =20
go home.
It is a fun place to race and train all year long, it would be great =20
to see an indoor track in portland.
Josh
On Jan 29, 2006, at 12:23 PM, Doug Hormann wrote:
My pessimistic side is showing, I know, but am I the only one who =20
thinks that a covered velodrome would likely result a greatly =20
increased cost to ride on it? Having a board track that could be set =20
up in Memorial Colliseum sounds great, but it wouldn't be available =20
for training or without a hefty fee to ride. Also, board tracks are =20
notoriously maintenance intensive. Having watched the carpenter come =20
out and repair the track every time someone crashed at last year's =20
world's in LA was an eye opener. My understanding is that the Carson =20
track in LA is also very expensive for clubs, or individuals to ride.
Doug Hormann
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From: J Bravard [mailto:jb24-@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:07 PM
To: ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
Another idea that might appeal to Nike is to design an indoor racing =20
track inside the velodrome. 250 meters is the distance of many top =20
notch indoor velodromes. 200 meters is the standard for indoor =20
running tracks, and perhaps it could be designed so that the running =20
track fit inside the velodrome - i.e. an efficient footprint. =20
Proposing both of these at the same location might heighten the =20
appeal to a company that is still more of a running company than a =20
cycling company. (Although I must admit that their new cycling shoes =20
are great.)
Just my 2 cent -
John Bravard
Luciano bailey <ride-@hotmail.com> wrote:
The state of the Art is late the ADT Center will be hard to out do .I =20=
still
believe the answer is the Memorial Coliseum any Nike Execs out there or
title people of any sort please step up.
From: Duncan Calver
Reply-To: duncan-@msn.com
To: patrickin-@yahoo.com, ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:25:16 -0800
A cover for Alpenrose would be cool, but...we should be able to go =20
bigger
than that:
Now, I'm not a trackie, but this issue has been on my brain for a =20
while...
I've been wondering why a big company like Nike (for instance) hasn't
stepped up to build a new state of the art indoor velodrome in an old
warehouse or something DOWNTOWN/Portland proper. Portland is the =20
biggest
cycling town in the US, has a huge contingent of track racers, and our
sport obviously needs to grow and build viewership/coverage. =20
Alpenrose is
great, but hardly anybody who doesn't race knows about it, and =20
that's why
the attendance for spectators is so low (also, they don't allow =20
alcohol on
the premises - generally a big minus for spectators). A new indoor
velodrome w/liquor license/band venue would be an insanely cool =20
addition to
Portland culture. They've got lots of these in Europe...any thoughts?
D
From: patrick wilder
Reply-To: patrickin-@yahoo.com
To: obra
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 12:33:46 -0800 (PST)
I'm sure this topic has come up before but I'm wondering what the
logistics of having an Indoor track would be. Seems like with all =20
this
rain we'd get tons of people riding in the winter.
Could some sort of cover be built over the current track? Sort of =20=
like
those big structures you see on HW 30 by the train yards.
Granted this is coming from a guy who has NEVER rode the current =20
track.
I think I'd be more inclined when the weather gets bad.
Ideas, feedback???
~Patrick
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-khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">For training at ADT in LA where =
I now live - it is anywhere from $10-20 a session with the ability to =
buy passes and also get discounts if you are a member of a club or team =
that helps at the track.<DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>You can pretty much train =
there most days a week if you wish.</DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Also unless you are a cat 1 =
or pro track rider you have to take a=A0certification class which is $65 =
to be able to ride it regardless of how many track races you have =
done.</DIV><DIV><BR class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>They =
also have the rule if you go down on the track in a session you go =
home.</DIV><DIV><BR class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>It is a =
fun place to race and train all year long, it would be great to see an =
indoor track in portland.</DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Josh</DIV><DIV><DIV><DIV>On =
Jan 29, 2006, at 12:23 PM, Doug Hormann wrote:</DIV><BR =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> <DIV><SPAN =
class=3D"171211620-29012006"><FONT face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" =
size=3D"2">My pessimistic side is showing, I know, but am I the only one =
who thinks that a covered velodrome would likely result a greatly =
increased cost to ride on it? Having a board track that could be set up =
in Memorial Colliseum sounds great, but it wouldn't be available for =
training or without a hefty fee to ride. Also, board tracks are =
notoriously maintenance intensive. Having watched the carpenter come out =
and repair the track every time someone crashed at last year's world's =
in LA=A0was an eye opener. My understanding is that the Carson track in =
LA is also very expensive for clubs, or individuals to =
ride.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D"171211620-29012006"><FONT =
face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2"></FONT></SPAN>=A0</DIV> =
<DIV><SPAN class=3D"171211620-29012006"><FONT face=3D"Arial" =
color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2">Doug Hormann</FONT></SPAN></DIV> =
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV =
class=3D"OutlookMessageHeader" dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><FONT =
face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> J =
Bravard [<A =
href=3D"mailto:jb24-@yahoo.com">mailto:jb24-@yahoo.com</A>]<BR><B>Sent=
:</B> Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:07 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A =
href=3D"mailto:ob-@topica.com">ob-@topica.com</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> =
RE: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV =
id=3D"RTEContent"> <BLOCKQUOTE class=3D"replbq" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: =
5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"> <DIV =
id=3D"RTEContent">Another idea that might appeal to Nike is to design an =
indoor racing track inside the velodrome. 250 meters is the distance =
of many top notch indoor velodromes. 200 meters is the standard for =
indoor running tracks, and perhaps it could be designed so that the =
running track fit inside the velodrome - i.e. an efficient =
footprint. Proposing both of these at the same location might =
heighten the appeal to a company that is still more of a running =
company than a cycling company. (Although I must admit that their =
new cycling shoes are great.)<BR><BR>Just my 2 cent -<BR>John =
Bravard<BR><BR><BR><B><I>Luciano bailey <<A =
href=3D"mailto:ride-@hotmail.com">ride-@hotmail.com</A>></I></B> =
wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE class=3D"replbq" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">The state =
of the Art is late the ADT Center will be hard to out do .I still =
<BR>believe the answer is the Memorial Coliseum any Nike Execs out there =
or <BR>title people of any sort please step =
up.<BR><BR><BR><BR>>From: Duncan Calver <BR>>Reply-To: =
<A =
href=3D"mailto:duncan-@msn.com">duncan-@msn.com</A><BR>>To: =
<A =
href=3D"mailto:patrickin-@yahoo.com">patrickin-@yahoo.com</A=
, <A =
href=3D"mailto:ob-@topica.com">ob-@topica.com</A><BR>>Subject: RE: =
[OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??<BR>>Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 =
13:25:16 -0800<BR>><BR>>A cover for Alpenrose would be cool, =
but...we should be able to go bigger <BR>>than =
that:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Now, I'm not a trackie, but this =
issue has been on my brain for a while...<BR>><BR>>I've been =
wondering why a big company like Nike (for instance) hasn't =
<BR>>stepped up to build a new state of the art indoor velodrome in =
an old <BR>>warehouse or something DOWNTOWN/Portland proper. =
Portland is the biggest <BR>>cycling town in the US, has a huge =
contingent of track racers, and our <BR>>sport obviously needs =
to grow and build viewership/coverage. Alpenrose is <BR>>great, =
but hardly anybody who doesn't race knows about it, and that's why =
<BR>>the attendance for spectators is so low (also, they don't =
allow alcohol on <BR>>the premises - generally a big minus for =
spectators). A new indoor <BR>>velodrome w/liquor license/band =
venue would be an insanely cool addition to <BR>>Portland =
culture. They've got lots of these in Europe...any =
thoughts?<BR>><BR>>D<BR>><BR>>>From: patrick wilder =
<BR>>>Reply-To: <A =
href=3D"mailto:patrickin-@yahoo.com">patrickin-@yahoo.com</A=
<BR>>>To: obra <BR>>>Subject: [OBRA Chat] Indoor =
Velodrome??<BR>>>Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 12:33:46 -0800 =
(PST)<BR>>><BR>>> I'm sure this topic has come up before but =
I'm wondering what the <BR>>>logistics of having an Indoor =
track would be. Seems like with all this <BR>>>rain we'd get =
tons of people riding in the winter.<BR>>><BR>>> Could =
some sort of cover be built over the current track? Sort of like =
<BR>>>those big structures you see on HW 30 by the train =
yards.<BR>>><BR>>> Granted this is coming from a guy =
who has NEVER rode the current track. <BR>>> I think I'd be =
more inclined when the weather gets bad.<BR>>><BR>>> =
Ideas, =
feedback???<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>~Patrick<BR>>=
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