Keith A. Prior
We gotta do what the Japanese do.
Make it interesting!!
Were talking GAMBLING baby!
Oregon is all about pulling in the revenues any way it can!
Someone should pitch it to the Native Tribes and the crooks in Salem!
-Keith
-----Original Message-----
From: Luciano bailey [mailto:ride-@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:05 AM
To: RCJoh-@attglobal.net; mc-@gorge.net
Cc: ob-@topica.com; mike.m-@obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
I think what is missing is what europeans already know, as much fun as a
road race can be, it pales in comparison to the spectator friendly confines
of a velodrome. At best if you were part of a Tour team or press corps you
might get to watch some or most of the action. one has only to look at
Madison Square Garden circa 1905 to see this sport brought the action to the
fan. I think in terms of athlete commitment the US is falling behind the
world simply because of a lack of marketing a global sport. regardless of
past attempts, in sport/marketing timing is everything this could be one of
the best reality shows on TV. So again anyone with corporate sponsorship I'm
ready to produce American Kerin and track racing as a wager sport in the US.
Thats right wager, track racers make nothing especially compared to a 50K
purse offered a hundred years ago for a scratch race. Who wouldn't want to
see the US battle Russia or China or Japan in all out Keirin racing oh wait
France( Since they only had themselves to race at the World Cup finished 1-2
in the sprints). Long story short if you build it they will come, pay them
well and they will stay and others will want to be like them. No offense
roadies, but Lance is already leading the road parade.
From: RCJoh-@attglobal.net
Reply-To: RCJoh-@attglobal.net
To: mc-@gorge.net
CC: ob-@topica.com, mike.m-@obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:30:59 -0800
Sounds to me like a "which came first / chicken or egg" situation. Until
there's an indoor option there's a whole lot of people that will be riding
somewhere else (or not at all). I live in Bend and therefore don't see
myself driving 6 hours to ride a track anytime soon. But, if it were in my
town the only time I'd be interested in track riding is indoors in the
winter. I think it's a pretty near universal thing that most of us ride in
great part for the pleasure of being outdoors, and never more so than when
the weather is nice. The great attraction of an indoor track is on the days
when it's too rainy, cold, snowy, icy or dark to have much fun outside.
Then a track becomes the preferred option over the mind numbing bore of
trainer pedaling.
So, I think it's safe to say that with an indoor track you could expect to
see a lot more interest through the winter. Enough to meet the financial
needs? Still doubtful, an important piece of the puzzle none the less.
Rick
martin cohen wrote:
I agree. Let's see current usage/spectatorship increase before going
further. I raced there 2 years ago, Fast Twitch Fridays, and in the
beginner field there were at most 8-10 racers. Considering that could have
included on-the-road cat 3-5, that's not alot. I drove 1.5 hours from Hood
River, and I knew of at least 1 other guy who came up from Corvallis.
Where the homies at?!!
I'd rather see the resources go into re-paving the current track.
Then again, if an indoor track would market/allow contests such as
rollerblading,skateboarding, or roller derby, it might have a chance.
Marty
mike.m-@obra.org wrote:
Most of the posts to this list on this subject have come from people that
don't use the velodrome that we are already lucky enough to have. The
first step in supporting the idea of an indoor velodrome would be to come
to events at the current outdoor velodrome. Even better would be to
support it by helping with organizing programs or finding sponsorship. As
use of the current velodrome grows the possibility of supporting an indoor
velodrome becomes much more likely.
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