Hormann, Douglas J.
Exactly, Short of a pot of gold, this makes it very expensive for you to ride. For me $10-20 a session, even if discounts are possible, is out of my range when I factor in two kids riding. Add to that race fees, etc. and it becomes like skiing or golf, fun but not something the average person can afford to do on a frequent basis.
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From: Josh Wiggins [mailto:joshwi-@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 6:13 PM
To: djhor-@verizon.net
Cc: ob-@topica.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
For training at ADT in LA where I now live - it is anywhere from $10-20 a session with the ability to buy passes and also get discounts if you are a member of a club or team that helps at the track.
You can pretty much train there most days a week if you wish.
Also unless you are a cat 1 or pro track rider you have to take a certification class which is $65 to be able to ride it regardless of how many track races you have done.
They also have the rule if you go down on the track in a session you go home.
It is a fun place to race and train all year long, it would be great to see an indoor track in portland.
Josh
On Jan 29, 2006, at 12:23 PM, Doug Hormann wrote:
My pessimistic side is showing, I know, but am I the only one who thinks that a covered velodrome would likely result a greatly increased cost to ride on it? Having a board track that could be set up in Memorial Colliseum sounds great, but it wouldn't be available for training or without a hefty fee to ride. Also, board tracks are notoriously maintenance intensive. Having watched the carpenter come out and repair the track every time someone crashed at last year's world's in LA was an eye opener. My understanding is that the Carson track in LA is also very expensive for clubs, or individuals to ride.
Doug Hormann
-----Original Message-----
From: J Bravard [mailto:jb24-@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:07 PM
To: ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
Another idea that might appeal to Nike is to design an indoor racing track inside the velodrome. 250 meters is the distance of many top notch indoor velodromes. 200 meters is the standard for indoor running tracks, and perhaps it could be designed so that the running track fit inside the velodrome - i.e. an efficient footprint. Proposing both of these at the same location might heighten the appeal to a company that is still more of a running company than a cycling company. (Although I must admit that their new cycling shoes are great.)
Just my 2 cent -
John Bravard
Luciano bailey <ride-@hotmail.com> wrote:
The state of the Art is late the ADT Center will be hard to out do .I still
believe the answer is the Memorial Coliseum any Nike Execs out there or
title people of any sort please step up.
>From: Duncan Calver
>Reply-To: duncan-@msn.com
>To: patrickin-@yahoo.com, ob-@topica.com
>Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
>Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:25:16 -0800
>
>A cover for Alpenrose would be cool, but...we should be able to go bigger
>than that:
>
>
>Now, I'm not a trackie, but this issue has been on my brain for a while...
>
>I've been wondering why a big company like Nike (for instance) hasn't
>stepped up to build a new state of the art indoor velodrome in an old
>warehouse or something DOWNTOWN/Portland proper. Portland is the biggest
>cycling town in the US, has a huge contingent of track racers, and our
>sport obviously needs to grow and build viewership/coverage. Alpenrose is
>great, but hardly anybody who doesn't race knows about it, and that's why
>the attendance for spectators is so low (also, they don't allow alcohol on
>the premises - generally a big minus for spectators). A new indoor
>velodrome w/liquor license/band venue would be an insanely cool addition to
>Portland culture. They've got lots of these in Europe...any thoughts?
>
>D
>
>>From: patrick wilder
>>Reply-To: patrickin-@yahoo.com
>>To: obra
>>Subject: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
>>Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 12:33:46 -0800 (PST)
>>
>> I'm sure this topic has come up before but I'm wondering what the
>>logistics of having an Indoor track would be. Seems like with all this
>>rain we'd get tons of people riding in the winter.
>>
>> Could some sort of cover be built over the current track? Sort of like
>>those big structures you see on HW 30 by the train yards.
>>
>> Granted this is coming from a guy who has NEVER rode the current track.
>> I think I'd be more inclined when the weather gets bad.
>>
>> Ideas, feedback???
>>
>>
>>
>>~Patrick
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