Keith A. Prior
Desperation always overrides logic i.e. Oregon revenue shortfall.
-K
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From: Long, Steve [mailto:Steve-@clark.wa.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:46 AM
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Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
I love it when logic seeps in.
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From: cmur-@obra.org [mailto:cmur-@obra.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:42 AM
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Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
Come on guys, if the horse racing program in Portland was not self
sustaining, how can betting on bikes works?
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From: Luciano bailey [mailto:ride-@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:31 AM
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Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
Grand Ron has been the most interested.
From: Steve Brown <sbr-@stevebrowncompany.com>
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Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:02:46 -0800
Keith,
Thats what I'm talking about. Does anyone know anyone at any of
the
Tribes?
Steve Brown
On Jan 30, 2006, at 4:33 PM, Keith A. Prior wrote:
We gotta do what the Japanese do.
Make it interesting!!
Were talking GAMBLING baby!
Oregon is all about pulling in the revenues any way it can!
Someone should pitch it to the Native Tribes and the crooks in Salem!
-Keith
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From: Luciano bailey [mailto:ride-@hotmail.com]
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Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
I think what is missing is what europeans already know, as much fun as
a road race can be, it pales in comparison to the spectator friendly
confines of a velodrome. At best if you were part of a Tour team or
press corps you might get to watch some or most of the action. one has
only to look at Madison Square Garden circa 1905 to see this sport
brought the action to the fan. I think in terms of athlete commitment
the US is falling behind the world simply because of a lack of
marketing a global sport. regardless of past attempts, in
sport/marketing timing is everything this could be one of the best
reality shows on TV. So again anyone with corporate sponsorship I'm
ready to produce American Kerin and track racing as a wager sport in
the US.
Thats right wager, track racers make nothing especially compared to a
50K purse offered a hundred years ago for a scratch race. Who wouldn't
want to see the US battle Russia or China or Japan in all out Keirin
racing oh wait France( Since they only had themselves to race at the
World Cup finished
1-2
in the sprints). Long story short if you build it they will come, pay
them well and they will stay and others will want to be like them. No
offense roadies, but Lance is already leading the road parade.
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Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:30:59 -0800
Sounds to me like a "which came first / chicken or egg" situation.
Until there's an indoor option there's a whole lot of people that
will be riding somewhere else (or not at all). I live in Bend and
therefore don't see myself driving 6 hours to ride a track anytime
soon. But, if it were in my town the only time I'd be interested in
track riding is indoors in the winter. I think it's a pretty near
universal thing that most of us ride in great part for the pleasure
of being outdoors, and never more so than when the weather is nice.
The great attraction of an indoor track is on the days when it's too
rainy, cold, snowy, icy or dark to have much fun outside.
Then a track becomes the preferred option over the mind numbing bore
of trainer pedaling.
So, I think it's safe to say that with an indoor track you could
expect to see a lot more interest through the winter. Enough to meet
the financial needs? Still doubtful, an important piece of the puzzle
none the less.
Rick
martin cohen wrote:
I agree. Let's see current usage/spectatorship increase before going
further. I raced there 2 years ago, Fast Twitch Fridays, and in the
beginner field there were at most 8-10 racers. Considering that
could have included on-the-road cat 3-5, that's not alot. I drove
1.5 hours from Hood River, and I knew of at least 1 other guy who
came up from Corvallis.
Where the homies at?!!
I'd rather see the resources go into re-paving the current track.
Then again, if an indoor track would market/allow contests such as
rollerblading,skateboarding, or roller derby, it might have a
chance.
Marty
mike.m-@obra.org wrote:
Most of the posts to this list on this subject have come from people
that don't use the velodrome that we are already lucky enough to
have. The first step in supporting the idea of an indoor velodrome
would be to come to events at the current outdoor velodrome. Even
better would be to support it by helping with organizing programs or
finding sponsorship.
As
use of the current velodrome grows the possibility of supporting an
indoor velodrome becomes much more likely.
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