Randy Dreiling
Remember the tribes offered to build a field to get a
major league baseball team and the state and/or city
said no and that project would have cost WAY more then
this.
Randy
--- cmur-@obra.org wrote:
Come on guys, if the horse racing program in
Portland was not self
sustaining, how can betting on bikes works?
-----Original Message-----
From: Luciano bailey [mailto:ride-@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:31 AM
To: sbr-@stevebrowncompany.com;
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Cc: ob-@topica.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
Grand Ron has been the most interested.
From: Steve Brown <sbr-@stevebrowncompany.com>
Reply-To: sbr-@stevebrowncompany.com
To: toka-@ix.netcom.com
CC: ob-@topica.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:02:46 -0800
Keith,
Thats what I'm talking about. Does anyone know
anyone at any of the
Tribes?
Steve Brown
On Jan 30, 2006, at 4:33 PM, Keith A. Prior wrote:
We gotta do what the Japanese do.
Make it interesting!!
Were talking GAMBLING baby!
Oregon is all about pulling in the revenues any
way it can!
Someone should pitch it to the Native Tribes and
the crooks in Salem!
-Keith
-----Original Message-----
From: Luciano bailey [mailto:ride-@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:05 AM
To: RCJoh-@attglobal.net; mc-@gorge.net
Cc: ob-@topica.com; mike.m-@obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
I think what is missing is what europeans already
know, as much fun as a
road race can be, it pales in comparison to the
spectator friendly
confines
of a velodrome. At best if you were part of a Tour
team or press corps you
might get to watch some or most of the action. one
has only to look at
Madison Square Garden circa 1905 to see this sport
brought the action to
the
fan. I think in terms of athlete commitment the US
is falling behind the
world simply because of a lack of marketing a
global sport. regardless of
past attempts, in sport/marketing timing is
everything this could be one
of
the best reality shows on TV. So again anyone with
corporate sponsorship
I'm
ready to produce American Kerin and track racing
as a wager sport in the
US.
Thats right wager, track racers make nothing
especially compared to a 50K
purse offered a hundred years ago for a scratch
race. Who wouldn't want to
see the US battle Russia or China or Japan in all
out Keirin racing oh
wait
France( Since they only had themselves to race at
the World Cup finished
1-2
in the sprints). Long story short if you build it
they will come, pay them
well and they will stay and others will want to be
like them. No offense
roadies, but Lance is already leading the road
parade.
From: RCJoh-@attglobal.net
Reply-To: RCJoh-@attglobal.net
To: mc-@gorge.net
CC: ob-@topica.com, mike.m-@obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:30:59 -0800
Sounds to me like a "which came first / chicken
or egg" situation. Until
there's an indoor option there's a whole lot of
people that will be
riding
somewhere else (or not at all). I live in Bend
and therefore don't see
myself driving 6 hours to ride a track anytime
soon. But, if it were in
my
town the only time I'd be interested in track
riding is indoors in the
winter. I think it's a pretty near universal
thing that most of us ride
in
great part for the pleasure of being outdoors,
and never more so than
when
the weather is nice. The great attraction of an
indoor track is on the
days
when it's too rainy, cold, snowy, icy or dark to
have much fun outside.
Then a track becomes the preferred option over
the mind numbing bore of
trainer pedaling.
So, I think it's safe to say that with an indoor
track you could expect
to
see a lot more interest through the winter.
Enough to meet the financial
needs? Still doubtful, an important piece of the
puzzle none the less.
Rick
martin cohen wrote:
I agree. Let's see current usage/spectatorship
increase before going
further. I raced there 2 years ago, Fast Twitch
Fridays, and in the
beginner field there were at most 8-10 racers.
Considering that could
have
included on-the-road cat 3-5, that's not alot. I
drove 1.5 hours from
Hood
River, and I knew of at least 1 other guy who
came up from Corvallis.
Where the homies at?!!
I'd rather see the resources go into re-paving
the current track.
Then again, if an indoor track would
market/allow contests such as
rollerblading,skateboarding, or roller derby, it
might have a chance.
Marty
mike.m-@obra.org wrote:
Most of the posts to this list on this subject
have come from people
that
don't use the velodrome that we are already
lucky enough to have. The
first step in supporting the idea of an indoor
velodrome would be to
come
to events at the current outdoor velodrome. Even
better would be to
support it by helping with organizing programs
or finding sponsorship.
As
use of the current velodrome grows the
possibility of supporting an
indoor
velodrome becomes much more likely.
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