Lisa Winchester
Yeah, right, a sponsor...Let's get Enron to sponsor it. ;-)
-Lisa
RE: Indoor Velodrome??
cmu-@obra.org
Jan 31, 2006 10:43 PST
Come on guys, if the horse racing program in Portland was not selfsustaining, how can betting on bikes works?-----Original Message-----From: Luciano bailey [mailto:rid-@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:31 AMTo: sb-@stevebrowncompany.com; tok-@ix.netcom.comCc: ob-@topica.comSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??Grand Ron has been the most interested.
From: Steve Brown <sb-@stevebrowncompany.com>Reply-To: sb-@stevebrowncompany.comTo: tok-@ix.netcom.comCC: ob-@topica.comSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:02:46 -0800Keith,Thats what I'm talking about. Does anyone know anyone at any of the
Tribes?Steve BrownOn Jan 30, 2006, at 4:33 PM, Keith A. Prior wrote:
We gotta do what the Japanese do.Make it interesting!!Were talking GAMBLING baby!Oregon is all about pulling in the revenues any way it can!Someone should pitch it to the Native Tribes and the crooks in Salem!-Keith-----Original Message-----From: Luciano bailey [mailto:rid-@hotmail.com]Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:05 AMTo: RCJ-@attglobal.net; mc-@gorge.netCc: ob-@topica.com; mike-@obra.orgSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??I think what is missing is what europeans already know, as much fun as aroad race can be, it pales in comparison to the spectator friendly confinesof a velodrome. At best if you were part of a Tour team or press corps youmight get to watch some or most of the action. one has only to look atMadison Square
Garden circa 1905 to see this sport brought the action to thefan. I think in terms of athlete commitment the US is falling behind theworld simply because of a lack of marketing a global sport. regardless ofpast attempts, in sport/marketing timing is everything this could be one ofthe best reality shows on TV. So again anyone with corporate sponsorship I'mready to produce American Kerin and track racing as a wager sport in the US.Thats right wager, track racers make nothing especially compared to a 50Kpurse offered a hundred years ago for a scratch race. Who wouldn't want tosee the US battle Russia or China or Japan in all out Keirin racing oh waitFrance( Since they only had themselves to race at the World Cup finished 1-2in the sprints). Long story short if you build it they will come, pay themwell and they will stay and
others will want to be like them. No offenseroadies, but Lance is already leading the road parade.
From: RCJ-@attglobal.netReply-To: RCJ-@attglobal.netTo: mc-@gorge.netCC: ob-@topica.com, mike-@obra.orgSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:30:59 -0800Sounds to me like a "which came first / chicken or egg" situation. Untilthere's an indoor option there's a whole lot of people that will be ridingsomewhere else (or not at all). I live in Bend and therefore don't seemyself driving 6 hours to ride a track anytime soon. But, if it were in mytown the only time I'd be interested in track riding is indoors in thewinter. I think it's a pretty near universal thing that most of us ride ingreat part for the pleasure of being outdoors, and never more so than whenthe weather is nice. The great attraction of an indoor track is on the
dayswhen it's too rainy, cold, snowy, icy or dark to have much fun outside.Then a track becomes the preferred option over the mind numbing bore oftrainer pedaling.So, I think it's safe to say that with an indoor track you could expect tosee a lot more interest through the winter. Enough to meet the financialneeds? Still doubtful, an important piece of the puzzle none the less.Rickmartin cohen wrote:
I agree. Let's see current usage/spectatorship increase before goingfurther. I raced there 2 years ago, Fast Twitch Fridays, and in thebeginner field there were at most 8-10 racers. Considering that could haveincluded on-the-road cat 3-5, that's not alot. I drove 1.5 hours from HoodRiver, and I knew of at least 1 other guy who came up from Corvallis.Where the homies at?!!I'd rather see the resources go into re-paving the current track.Then again, if an indoor track would market/allow contests such asrollerblading,skateboarding, or roller derby, it might have a chance.Mar-@obra.org wrote:Most of the posts to this list on this subject have come from people thatdon't use the velodrome that we are already lucky enough to have. Thefirst step in supporting
the idea of an indoor velodrome would be to cometo events at the current outdoor velodrome. Even better would be tosupport it by helping with organizing programs or finding sponsorship. Asuse of the current velodrome grows the possibility of supporting an indoorvelodrome becomes much more likely.