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Oh, I thought you meant lance coffel.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Hoffman [mailto:t.hoff-@verizon.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:01 AM
To: cmur-@obra.org; ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
Hmmm..... Maybe they could feature sexy hard body racers and Discovery
channel can do a reality TV show based on the racers hosted by Lance!
See
the TV show will promote the races, taking place in Oregon, where you
have
to go in order to bet on your favorite racers at the Indian Casino! How
can
Governor Ted say no! I wonder if Kitzhaber will get on board if the
states
share goes to Health Care?
Indian Casinos, Sexy Hard body Kerin Racers, and Lance Armstrong. WOW! I
can
Feel the Synergy!
I think this could really work! The show will need Talent for the races,
so
everybody better Hit the Gym! And better find a good Waxing Parlor, some
of
you are going to need it!
I think the record shows that I did come up with the Indian Casino Idea
first, so I get dibs on the "Created By" Credit for the TV show.
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: cmur-@obra.org [mailto:cmur-@obra.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:42 AM
To: ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
Come on guys, if the horse racing program in Portland was not self
sustaining, how can betting on bikes works?
-----Original Message-----
From: Luciano bailey [mailto:ride-@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:31 AM
To: sbr-@stevebrowncompany.com; toka-@ix.netcom.com
Cc: ob-@topica.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
Grand Ron has been the most interested.
From: Steve Brown <sbr-@stevebrowncompany.com>
Reply-To: sbr-@stevebrowncompany.com
To: toka-@ix.netcom.com
CC: ob-@topica.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:02:46 -0800
Keith,
Thats what I'm talking about. Does anyone know anyone at any of
the
Tribes?
Steve Brown
On Jan 30, 2006, at 4:33 PM, Keith A. Prior wrote:
We gotta do what the Japanese do.
Make it interesting!!
Were talking GAMBLING baby!
Oregon is all about pulling in the revenues any way it can!
Someone should pitch it to the Native Tribes and the crooks in Salem!
-Keith
-----Original Message-----
From: Luciano bailey [mailto:ride-@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:05 AM
To: RCJoh-@attglobal.net; mc-@gorge.net
Cc: ob-@topica.com; mike.m-@obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
I think what is missing is what europeans already know, as much fun as
a
road race can be, it pales in comparison to the spectator friendly
confines
of a velodrome. At best if you were part of a Tour team or press corps
you
might get to watch some or most of the action. one has only to look at
Madison Square Garden circa 1905 to see this sport brought the action
to
the
fan. I think in terms of athlete commitment the US is falling behind
the
world simply because of a lack of marketing a global sport. regardless
of
past attempts, in sport/marketing timing is everything this could be
one
of
the best reality shows on TV. So again anyone with corporate
sponsorship
I'm
ready to produce American Kerin and track racing as a wager sport in
the
US.
Thats right wager, track racers make nothing especially compared to a
50K
purse offered a hundred years ago for a scratch race. Who wouldn't
want to
see the US battle Russia or China or Japan in all out Keirin racing oh
wait
France( Since they only had themselves to race at the World Cup
finished
1-2
in the sprints). Long story short if you build it they will come, pay
them
well and they will stay and others will want to be like them. No
offense
roadies, but Lance is already leading the road parade.
From: RCJoh-@attglobal.net
Reply-To: RCJoh-@attglobal.net
To: mc-@gorge.net
CC: ob-@topica.com, mike.m-@obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Indoor Velodrome??
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:30:59 -0800
Sounds to me like a "which came first / chicken or egg" situation.
Until
there's an indoor option there's a whole lot of people that will be
riding
somewhere else (or not at all). I live in Bend and therefore don't
see
myself driving 6 hours to ride a track anytime soon. But, if it were
in
my
town the only time I'd be interested in track riding is indoors in
the
winter. I think it's a pretty near universal thing that most of us
ride
in
great part for the pleasure of being outdoors, and never more so than
when
the weather is nice. The great attraction of an indoor track is on
the
days
when it's too rainy, cold, snowy, icy or dark to have much fun
outside.
Then a track becomes the preferred option over the mind numbing bore
of
trainer pedaling.
So, I think it's safe to say that with an indoor track you could
expect
to
see a lot more interest through the winter. Enough to meet the
financial
needs? Still doubtful, an important piece of the puzzle none the
less.
Rick
martin cohen wrote:
I agree. Let's see current usage/spectatorship increase before going
further. I raced there 2 years ago, Fast Twitch Fridays, and in the
beginner field there were at most 8-10 racers. Considering that
could
have
included on-the-road cat 3-5, that's not alot. I drove 1.5 hours
from
Hood
River, and I knew of at least 1 other guy who came up from
Corvallis.
Where the homies at?!!
I'd rather see the resources go into re-paving the current track.
Then again, if an indoor track would market/allow contests such as
rollerblading,skateboarding, or roller derby, it might have a
chance.
Marty
mike.m-@obra.org wrote:
Most of the posts to this list on this subject have come from people
that
don't use the velodrome that we are already lucky enough to have.
The
first step in supporting the idea of an indoor velodrome would be to
come
to events at the current outdoor velodrome. Even better would be to
support it by helping with organizing programs or finding
sponsorship.
As
use of the current velodrome grows the possibility of supporting an
indoor
velodrome becomes much more likely.
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