Heather VanValkenburg, Fdg.
Brian-
The idea is to award folks for doing well in larger fields. For example,
most local women's races have small fields of 6-10, so merely showing up,
and trailing in 20 minutes after the winners have finished (in my case many
times) can earn you BAR points. On the other hand, a stage race field may
have closer to 40-60 women, and the stakes are the same. The fields are even
smaller for track, time trial, mountain bike (I think), and most criteriums.
As someone who doesn't go uphill very quickly (most of OBRA can tell you
that about me and my feelings about climbing), I race in very small fields
on the track and most criteriums. Heck, I did my first and only cross race
this year to take advantage of the current system.
I have gotten used to the system that is unfair for others. Look at the top
5 women in the overall BAR- mostly track riders. Kori's just a great non-
track racer, who had to attend almost every cross race to keep her position.
Based on the old formula, I can win one PIR a month (gets me top 5 in
overall monthly series and counts as one road race), do the "food" races
(pies, bananas, and cake) do one time trial a season (top 3 based on the
average turnout of 1-5), and just show up at the track for a few races, and
I finish well in the overall BAR. (oh yea, let's not forget the blue lake
cross.)
Ask the cat 3 guy that does almost all local races, yet finishes 11th most
of the time. He will be very happy with the new system. I agree the new
system will hurt my overall standings, but it's a lot more fair to the women
who do very well in a few select stage races and deserve the recognition.
-Heather VanValkenburg
----Original Message Follows----
From: Brian L <lis-@comcast.net>
Reply-To: lis-@comcast.net
To: ob-@topica.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Comment on proposed BAR changes
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 18:45:02 -0800
A. Best All Round Rider Competition.
Points for the BAR will be weighted based on attendance. i.e. Races with
10 or less riders will get .5 of full points. Races with 11-20 will receive
.75 of full points. Races 100+ will receive 1.50%.
Since the BAR is a participatory award, shouldn't these incentives be
reversed? i.e. Wouldn't we want to reward people for going to the smaller
races rather than the races that are full anyway? I have no problem with
people getting easy BAR points at the smaller races, for perhaps that extra
incentive helps those races survive.
The proposed bonuses seem more appropriate for something like the Oregon
Cup.
Just a thought,
Brian
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