Suz Weldon

People! Enough already... Please! My delete key is getting worn out...

Quoting shane.young@comcast.net:

> If it is GWB, then one of the people making the fuss saying that we
> will find the person that peed is the one that peed.
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Thomas Hoffman"
>
>> Does THAT MAKE Rider 504 the Anti-Christ?
>>
>> And all this time I thought it was George Bush!
>>
>> Thomas Hoffman
>> \
>> XX-----Original Message-----
>> XXFrom: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>> Behalf
>> XXOf Joe Cipale
>> XXSent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 3:22 PM
>> XXTo: Schreck, George
>> XXCc: obra@list.obra.org
>> XXSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
>> XX
>> XXSo now we are awaiting the resurrection of the accused cyclist?
>> XX
>> XX( well now.. aren't we all going to hell for such blasphemy... :^) )
>> XX
>> XXJoe
>> XX
>> XXSchreck, George wrote:
>> XX
>> XX> Well get over it. We already had a crucifixation this weekend. The
>> XX> offender was punished and we do not need all the other intermeddlers
>> XX> piling on.
>> XX>
>> XX> -----Original Message-----
>> XX> From: Thomas Hoffman [mailto:t.hoffman10@verizon.net]
>> XX> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:07 PM
>> XX> To: 'J.Michael Manning'; Schreck, George; shane.young@comcast.net;
>> XX> anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu; news4joel@gmail.com
>> XX> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
>> XX> Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
>> XX>
>> XX> Cuz we are all pissed off at him (or Her)
>> XX>
>> XX> Thomas Hoffman
>> XX> \
>> XX> XX-----Original Message-----
>> XX> XXFrom: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
>> XX> On Behalf XXOf J.Michael Manning
>> XX> XXSent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:06 PM
>> XX> XXTo: George.Schreck@PacifiCorp.com; shane.young@comcast.net;
>> XX> XXanthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu; news4joel@gmail.com
>> XX> XXCc: obra@list.obra.org
>> XX> XXSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
>> XX> XX
>> XX> XXThanks George,
>> XX> XXThat's exactly the point. I never said that public urination is not an
>> XX> XXissue. I am just asking why does everybody need to know who the
>> XX> offender is?
>> XX> XXMike Manning
>> XX> XX
>> XX> XX
>> XX> XX>From: "Schreck, George"
>> XX> XX>To: shane.young@comcast.net, "J.Michael Manning"
>> XX> XX>,anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu,
>> XX> XX>news4joel@gmail.com
>> XX> XX>CC: obra@list.obra.org
>> XX> XX>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
>> XX> XX>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:23:08 -0700
>> XX> XX>
>> XX> XX>All I think Mike is trying to say is that the person was punished by
>> XX> XX>the DQ and at that point, there is no point in have the entire OBRA
>> XX> XX>community pursue it further with respect to the individual. I think
>> XX> XX>we all agree that if there are bathrooms available they should be
>> XX> used.
>> XX> XX>
>> XX> XX>________________________________
>> XX> XX>
>> XX> XX>From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
>> XX> XX>On Behalf Of shane.young@comcast.net
>> XX> XX>Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 11:02 AM
>> XX> XX>To: J.Michael Manning; anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu;
>> XX> XX>news4joel@gmail.com
>> XX> XX>Cc: obra@list.obra.org
>> XX> XX>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
>> XX> XX>
>> XX> XX>
>> XX> XX>What difference does it make anyways? Hello... Anyone there? The
>> XX> XX>difference is if this were to continue then we could loose another
>> XX> XX>race venue. In the case of PIR that could be 40 plus races out of
>> XX> XX>the year because they could decide to get rid of all the bicycle
>> XX> XX>racing at the course. That is road, cross and short track MTB.
>> XX> XX>
>> XX> XX>
>> XX> XX> -------------- Original message --------------
>> XX> XX> From: "J.Michael Manning"
>> XX> XX>
>> XX> XX> > I think I speak for the majority when I say we really don't
>> XX> care
>> XX> XX>who it was.
>> XX> XX> > And what difference does it make anyway? Are you planning some
>> XX>
>> XX> XX>kind of
>> XX> XX> > public humiliation? Are we going to brand this person by
>> XX> making
>> XX> XX>them wear a
>> XX> XX> > big yellow P on thier chest?
>> XX> XX> > Mike Manning
>> XX> XX> >
>> XX> XX> >
>> XX> XX> > >From: "Anthony Cree"
>> XX> XX> > >Reply-To: anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu
>> XX> XX> > >To: "Joel Morrissette"
>> XX> XX> > >CC: obra@list.obra.org
>> XX> XX> > >Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
>> XX> XX> > >Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:49:05 -0700
>> XX> XX> > >
>> XX> XX> > >Why would you assume it was a he?
>> XX> XX> > >
>> XX> XX> > >On 4/19/06, Joel Morrissette wrote:
>> XX> XX> & gt; &g t; >
>> XX> XX> > > > But did he do it while RIDING? = )
>> XX> XX> > > >
>> XX> XX> > > >
>> XX> XX> > > > On 4/19/06, Lisa Winchester wrote:
>> XX> XX> > > > >
>> XX> XX> > > > > Curiousity begs the question...who was this?
>> XX> XX> > > > >
>> XX> XX> > > > > Subject: Results-PIR April 18
>> XX> XX> > > > > Date: 04/18/2006 09:37 PM
>> XX> XX> > > > > From: Candi Murray
>> XX> XX> > > > > Rider #504 dq'd for urinating in public. There are
>> XX> restrooms
>> XX> XX>at this
>> XX> XX> > > > > event.
>> XX> XX> > > > > What were you thinking?
>> XX> XX> > > > >
>> XX> XX> > > > >
>> XX> XX> > > > > _______________________________________________
>> XX> XX> > > > > OBRA mailing list
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>> XX> XX> > > > > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
>> XX> XX> > > > > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>> XX> XX> > > > & gt;
>> XX> XX> > > >
>> XX> XX> > > >
>> XX> XX> > > >
>> XX> XX> > > > --
>> XX> XX> > > > __o "It never gets easier,
>> XX> XX> > > > _ \<_ you just go faster."
>> XX> XX> > > > (_)/(_) -- Greg LeMond
>> XX> XX> > > >
>> XX> XX> > > > _______________________________________________
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shane.young@comcast.net

If it is GWB, then one of the people making the fuss saying that we will find the person that peed is the one that peed.

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Thomas Hoffman"

> Does THAT MAKE Rider 504 the Anti-Christ?
>
> And all this time I thought it was George Bush!
>
> Thomas Hoffman
> \
> XX-----Original Message-----
> XXFrom: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf
> XXOf Joe Cipale
> XXSent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 3:22 PM
> XXTo: Schreck, George
> XXCc: obra@list.obra.org
> XXSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
> XX
> XXSo now we are awaiting the resurrection of the accused cyclist?
> XX
> XX( well now.. aren't we all going to hell for such blasphemy... :^) )
> XX
> XXJoe
> XX
> XXSchreck, George wrote:
> XX
> XX> Well get over it. We already had a crucifixation this weekend. The
> XX> offender was punished and we do not need all the other intermeddlers
> XX> piling on.
> XX>
> XX> -----Original Message-----
> XX> From: Thomas Hoffman [mailto:t.hoffman10@verizon.net]
> XX> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:07 PM
> XX> To: 'J.Michael Manning'; Schreck, George; shane.young@comcast.net;
> XX> anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu; news4joel@gmail.com
> XX> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> XX> Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
> XX>
> XX> Cuz we are all pissed off at him (or Her)
> XX>
> XX> Thomas Hoffman
> XX> \
> XX> XX-----Original Message-----
> XX> XXFrom: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
> XX> On Behalf XXOf J.Michael Manning
> XX> XXSent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:06 PM
> XX> XXTo: George.Schreck@PacifiCorp.com; shane.young@comcast.net;
> XX> XXanthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu; news4joel@gmail.com
> XX> XXCc: obra@list.obra.org
> XX> XXSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
> XX> XX
> XX> XXThanks George,
> XX> XXThat's exactly the point. I never said that public urination is not an
> XX> XXissue. I am just asking why does everybody need to know who the
> XX> offender is?
> XX> XXMike Manning
> XX> XX
> XX> XX
> XX> XX>From: "Schreck, George"
> XX> XX>To: shane.young@comcast.net, "J.Michael Manning"
> XX> XX>,anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu,
> XX> XX>news4joel@gmail.com
> XX> XX>CC: obra@list.obra.org
> XX> XX>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
> XX> XX>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:23:08 -0700
> XX> XX>
> XX> XX>All I think Mike is trying to say is that the person was punished by
> XX> XX>the DQ and at that point, there is no point in have the entire OBRA
> XX> XX>community pursue it further with respect to the individual. I think
> XX> XX>we all agree that if there are bathrooms available they should be
> XX> used.
> XX> XX>
> XX> XX>________________________________
> XX> XX>
> XX> XX>From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
> XX> XX>On Behalf Of shane.young@comcast.net
> XX> XX>Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 11:02 AM
> XX> XX>To: J.Michael Manning; anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu;
> XX> XX>news4joel@gmail.com
> XX> XX>Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> XX> XX>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
> XX> XX>
> XX> XX>
> XX> XX>What difference does it make anyways? Hello... Anyone there? The
> XX> XX>difference is if this were to continue then we could loose another
> XX> XX>race venue. In the case of PIR that could be 40 plus races out of
> XX> XX>the year because they could decide to get rid of all the bicycle
> XX> XX>racing at the course. That is road, cross and short track MTB.
> XX> XX>
> XX> XX>
> XX> XX> -------------- Original message --------------
> XX> XX> From: "J.Michael Manning"
> XX> XX>
> XX> XX> > I think I speak for the majority when I say we really don't
> XX> care
> XX> XX>who it was.
> XX> XX> > And what difference does it make anyway? Are you planning some
> XX>
> XX> XX>kind of
> XX> XX> > public humiliation? Are we going to brand this person by
> XX> making
> XX> XX>them wear a
> XX> XX> > big yellow P on thier chest?
> XX> XX> > Mike Manning
> XX> XX> >
> XX> XX> >
> XX> XX> > >From: "Anthony Cree"
> XX> XX> > >Reply-To: anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu
> XX> XX> > >To: "Joel Morrissette"
> XX> XX> > >CC: obra@list.obra.org
> XX> XX> > >Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
> XX> XX> > >Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:49:05 -0700
> XX> XX> > >
> XX> XX> > >Why would you assume it was a he?
> XX> XX> > >
> XX> XX> > >On 4/19/06, Joel Morrissette wrote:
> XX> XX> & gt; &g t; >
> XX> XX> > > > But did he do it while RIDING? = )
> XX> XX> > > >
> XX> XX> > > >
> XX> XX> > > > On 4/19/06, Lisa Winchester wrote:
> XX> XX> > > > >
> XX> XX> > > > > Curiousity begs the question...who was this?
> XX> XX> > > > >
> XX> XX> > > > > Subject: Results-PIR April 18
> XX> XX> > > > > Date: 04/18/2006 09:37 PM
> XX> XX> > > > > From: Candi Murray
> XX> XX> > > > > Rider #504 dq'd for urinating in public. There are
> XX> restrooms
> XX> XX>at this
> XX> XX> > > > > event.
> XX> XX> > > > > What were you thinking?
> XX> XX> > > > >
> XX> XX> > > > >
> XX> XX> > > > > _______________________________________________
> XX> XX> > > > > OBRA mailing list
> XX> XX> > > > > obra@list.obra.org
> XX> XX> > > > > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> XX> XX> > > > > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> XX> XX> > > > & gt;
> XX> XX> > > >
> XX> XX> > > >
> XX> XX> > > >
> XX> XX> > > > --
> XX> XX> > > > __o "It never gets easier,
> XX> XX> > > > _ \<_ you just go faster."
> XX> XX> > > > (_)/(_) -- Greg LeMond
> XX> XX> > > >
> XX> XX> > > > _______________________________________________
> XX> XX> > > > OBRA mailing list
> XX> XX> > > > obra@list.obra.org
> XX> XX> > > > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> XX> XX> > > > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> XX> XX> > > >
> XX> XX> > > >
> XX> XX> > > >
> XX> XX> >
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Thomas Hoffman

Does THAT MAKE Rider 504 the Anti-Christ?

And all this time I thought it was George Bush!

Thomas Hoffman
\
XX-----Original Message-----
XXFrom: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf
XXOf Joe Cipale
XXSent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 3:22 PM
XXTo: Schreck, George
XXCc: obra@list.obra.org
XXSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
XX
XXSo now we are awaiting the resurrection of the accused cyclist?
XX
XX( well now.. aren't we all going to hell for such blasphemy... :^) )
XX
XXJoe
XX
XXSchreck, George wrote:
XX
XX> Well get over it. We already had a crucifixation this weekend. The
XX> offender was punished and we do not need all the other intermeddlers
XX> piling on.
XX>
XX> -----Original Message-----
XX> From: Thomas Hoffman [mailto:t.hoffman10@verizon.net]
XX> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:07 PM
XX> To: 'J.Michael Manning'; Schreck, George; shane.young@comcast.net;
XX> anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu; news4joel@gmail.com
XX> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
XX> Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
XX>
XX> Cuz we are all pissed off at him (or Her)
XX>
XX> Thomas Hoffman
XX> \
XX> XX-----Original Message-----
XX> XXFrom: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
XX> On Behalf XXOf J.Michael Manning
XX> XXSent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:06 PM
XX> XXTo: George.Schreck@PacifiCorp.com; shane.young@comcast.net;
XX> XXanthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu; news4joel@gmail.com
XX> XXCc: obra@list.obra.org
XX> XXSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
XX> XX
XX> XXThanks George,
XX> XXThat's exactly the point. I never said that public urination is not an
XX> XXissue. I am just asking why does everybody need to know who the
XX> offender is?
XX> XXMike Manning
XX> XX
XX> XX
XX> XX>From: "Schreck, George"
XX> XX>To: shane.young@comcast.net, "J.Michael Manning"
XX> XX>,anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu,
XX> XX>news4joel@gmail.com
XX> XX>CC: obra@list.obra.org
XX> XX>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
XX> XX>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:23:08 -0700
XX> XX>
XX> XX>All I think Mike is trying to say is that the person was punished by
XX> XX>the DQ and at that point, there is no point in have the entire OBRA
XX> XX>community pursue it further with respect to the individual. I think
XX> XX>we all agree that if there are bathrooms available they should be
XX> used.
XX> XX>
XX> XX>________________________________
XX> XX>
XX> XX>From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
XX> XX>On Behalf Of shane.young@comcast.net
XX> XX>Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 11:02 AM
XX> XX>To: J.Michael Manning; anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu;
XX> XX>news4joel@gmail.com
XX> XX>Cc: obra@list.obra.org
XX> XX>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
XX> XX>
XX> XX>
XX> XX>What difference does it make anyways? Hello... Anyone there? The
XX> XX>difference is if this were to continue then we could loose another
XX> XX>race venue. In the case of PIR that could be 40 plus races out of
XX> XX>the year because they could decide to get rid of all the bicycle
XX> XX>racing at the course. That is road, cross and short track MTB.
XX> XX>
XX> XX>
XX> XX> -------------- Original message --------------
XX> XX> From: "J.Michael Manning"
XX> XX>
XX> XX> > I think I speak for the majority when I say we really don't
XX> care
XX> XX>who it was.
XX> XX> > And what difference does it make anyway? Are you planning some
XX>
XX> XX>kind of
XX> XX> > public humiliation? Are we going to brand this person by
XX> making
XX> XX>them wear a
XX> XX> > big yellow P on thier chest?
XX> XX> > Mike Manning
XX> XX> >
XX> XX> >
XX> XX> > >From: "Anthony Cree"
XX> XX> > >Reply-To: anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu
XX> XX> > >To: "Joel Morrissette"
XX> XX> > >CC: obra@list.obra.org
XX> XX> > >Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
XX> XX> > >Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:49:05 -0700
XX> XX> > >
XX> XX> > >Why would you assume it was a he?
XX> XX> > >
XX> XX> > >On 4/19/06, Joel Morrissette wrote:
XX> XX> & gt; &g t; >
XX> XX> > > > But did he do it while RIDING? = )
XX> XX> > > >
XX> XX> > > >
XX> XX> > > > On 4/19/06, Lisa Winchester wrote:
XX> XX> > > > >
XX> XX> > > > > Curiousity begs the question...who was this?
XX> XX> > > > >
XX> XX> > > > > Subject: Results-PIR April 18
XX> XX> > > > > Date: 04/18/2006 09:37 PM
XX> XX> > > > > From: Candi Murray
XX> XX> > > > > Rider #504 dq'd for urinating in public. There are
XX> restrooms
XX> XX>at this
XX> XX> > > > > event.
XX> XX> > > > > What were you thinking?
XX> XX> > > > >
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Joe Cipale

So now we are awaiting the resurrection of the accused cyclist?

( well now.. aren't we all going to hell for such blasphemy... :^) )

Joe

Schreck, George wrote:

> Well get over it. We already had a crucifixation this weekend. The
> offender was punished and we do not need all the other intermeddlers
> piling on.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Hoffman [mailto:t.hoffman10@verizon.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:07 PM
> To: 'J.Michael Manning'; Schreck, George; shane.young@comcast.net;
> anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu; news4joel@gmail.com
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
>
> Cuz we are all pissed off at him (or Her)
>
> Thomas Hoffman
> \
> XX-----Original Message-----
> XXFrom: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
> On Behalf XXOf J.Michael Manning
> XXSent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:06 PM
> XXTo: George.Schreck@PacifiCorp.com; shane.young@comcast.net;
> XXanthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu; news4joel@gmail.com
> XXCc: obra@list.obra.org
> XXSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
> XX
> XXThanks George,
> XXThat's exactly the point. I never said that public urination is not an
> XXissue. I am just asking why does everybody need to know who the
> offender is?
> XXMike Manning
> XX
> XX
> XX>From: "Schreck, George"
> XX>To: shane.young@comcast.net, "J.Michael Manning"
> XX>,anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu,
> XX>news4joel@gmail.com
> XX>CC: obra@list.obra.org
> XX>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
> XX>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:23:08 -0700
> XX>
> XX>All I think Mike is trying to say is that the person was punished by
> XX>the DQ and at that point, there is no point in have the entire OBRA
> XX>community pursue it further with respect to the individual. I think
> XX>we all agree that if there are bathrooms available they should be
> used.
> XX>
> XX>________________________________
> XX>
> XX>From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
> XX>On Behalf Of shane.young@comcast.net
> XX>Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 11:02 AM
> XX>To: J.Michael Manning; anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu;
> XX>news4joel@gmail.com
> XX>Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> XX>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
> XX>
> XX>
> XX>What difference does it make anyways? Hello... Anyone there? The
> XX>difference is if this were to continue then we could loose another
> XX>race venue. In the case of PIR that could be 40 plus races out of
> XX>the year because they could decide to get rid of all the bicycle
> XX>racing at the course. That is road, cross and short track MTB.
> XX>
> XX>
> XX> -------------- Original message --------------
> XX> From: "J.Michael Manning"
> XX>
> XX> > I think I speak for the majority when I say we really don't
> care
> XX>who it was.
> XX> > And what difference does it make anyway? Are you planning some
>
> XX>kind of
> XX> > public humiliation? Are we going to brand this person by
> making
> XX>them wear a
> XX> > big yellow P on thier chest?
> XX> > Mike Manning
> XX> >
> XX> >
> XX> > >From: "Anthony Cree"
> XX> > >Reply-To: anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu
> XX> > >To: "Joel Morrissette"
> XX> > >CC: obra@list.obra.org
> XX> > >Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
> XX> > >Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:49:05 -0700
> XX> > >
> XX> > >Why would you assume it was a he?
> XX> > >
> XX> > >On 4/19/06, Joel Morrissette wrote:
> XX> & gt; &g t; >
> XX> > > > But did he do it while RIDING? = )
> XX> > > >
> XX> > > >
> XX> > > > On 4/19/06, Lisa Winchester wrote:
> XX> > > > >
> XX> > > > > Curiousity begs the question...who was this?
> XX> > > > >
> XX> > > > > Subject: Results-PIR April 18
> XX> > > > > Date: 04/18/2006 09:37 PM
> XX> > > > > From: Candi Murray
> XX> > > > > Rider #504 dq'd for urinating in public. There are
> restrooms
> XX>at this
> XX> > > > > event.
> XX> > > > > What were you thinking?
> XX> > > > >
> XX> > > > >
> XX> > > > > _______________________________________________
> XX> > > > > OBRA mailing list
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> XX> > > > > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
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> XX> > > > & gt;
> XX> > > >
> XX> > > >
> XX> > > >
> XX> > > > --
> XX> > > > __o "It never gets easier,
> XX> > > > _ \<_ you just go faster."
> XX> > > > (_)/(_) -- Greg LeMond
> XX> > > >
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Greg Umscheid

Classic!

>From: "Schreck, George"
>To: "Thomas Hoffman" ,"J.Michael Manning"
>, shane.young@comcast.net,
>anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu, news4joel@gmail.com
>CC: obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:18:28 -0700
>
>Well get over it. We already had a crucifixation this weekend. The
>offender was punished and we do not need all the other intermeddlers
>piling on.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Thomas Hoffman [mailto:t.hoffman10@verizon.net]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:07 PM
>To: 'J.Michael Manning'; Schreck, George; shane.young@comcast.net;
>anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu; news4joel@gmail.com
>Cc: obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
>
>Cuz we are all pissed off at him (or Her)
>
>Thomas Hoffman
>\
>XX-----Original Message-----
>XXFrom: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
>On Behalf XXOf J.Michael Manning
>XXSent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:06 PM
>XXTo: George.Schreck@PacifiCorp.com; shane.young@comcast.net;
>XXanthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu; news4joel@gmail.com
>XXCc: obra@list.obra.org
>XXSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
>XX
>XXThanks George,
>XXThat's exactly the point. I never said that public urination is not an
>XXissue. I am just asking why does everybody need to know who the
>offender is?
>XXMike Manning
>XX
>XX
>XX>From: "Schreck, George"
>XX>To: shane.young@comcast.net, "J.Michael Manning"
>XX>,anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu,
>XX>news4joel@gmail.com
>XX>CC: obra@list.obra.org
>XX>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
>XX>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:23:08 -0700
>XX>
>XX>All I think Mike is trying to say is that the person was punished by
>XX>the DQ and at that point, there is no point in have the entire OBRA
>XX>community pursue it further with respect to the individual. I think
>XX>we all agree that if there are bathrooms available they should be
>used.
>XX>
>XX>________________________________
>XX>
>XX>From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
>XX>On Behalf Of shane.young@comcast.net
>XX>Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 11:02 AM
>XX>To: J.Michael Manning; anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu;
>XX>news4joel@gmail.com
>XX>Cc: obra@list.obra.org
>XX>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
>XX>
>XX>
>XX>What difference does it make anyways? Hello... Anyone there? The
>XX>difference is if this were to continue then we could loose another
>XX>race venue. In the case of PIR that could be 40 plus races out of
>XX>the year because they could decide to get rid of all the bicycle
>XX>racing at the course. That is road, cross and short track MTB.
>XX>
>XX>
>XX> -------------- Original message --------------
>XX> From: "J.Michael Manning"
>XX>
>XX> > I think I speak for the majority when I say we really don't
>care
>XX>who it was.
>XX> > And what difference does it make anyway? Are you planning some
>
>XX>kind of
>XX> > public humiliation? Are we going to brand this person by
>making
>XX>them wear a
>XX> > big yellow P on thier chest?
>XX> > Mike Manning
>XX> >
>XX> >
>XX> > >From: "Anthony Cree"
>XX> > >Reply-To: anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu
>XX> > >To: "Joel Morrissette"
>XX> > >CC: obra@list.obra.org
>XX> > >Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
>XX> > >Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:49:05 -0700
>XX> > >
>XX> > >Why would you assume it was a he?
>XX> > >
>XX> > >On 4/19/06, Joel Morrissette wrote:
>XX> & gt; &g t; >
>XX> > > > But did he do it while RIDING? = )
>XX> > > >
>XX> > > >
>XX> > > > On 4/19/06, Lisa Winchester wrote:
>XX> > > > >
>XX> > > > > Curiousity begs the question...who was this?
>XX> > > > >
>XX> > > > > Subject: Results-PIR April 18
>XX> > > > > Date: 04/18/2006 09:37 PM
>XX> > > > > From: Candi Murray
>XX> > > > > Rider #504 dq'd for urinating in public. There are
>restrooms
>XX>at this
>XX> > > > > event.
>XX> > > > > What were you thinking?
>XX> > > > >
>XX> > > > >
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>XX> > > > & gt;
>XX> > > >
>XX> > > >
>XX> > > >
>XX> > > > --
>XX> > > > __o "It never gets easier,
>XX> > > > _ \<_ you just go faster."
>XX> > > > (_)/(_) -- Greg LeMond
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Schreck, George

I think this group tends to pile on a bit too much, and I realize I have
been one of the offenders from time to time.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Susan Otcenas
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:47 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?

Because perhaps the threat of public humiliation is the only thing that
will cause some people to think twice before jeopardizing an important
race venue? Think about it, would YOU want to be known as the guy that
cause cyclists to be banned from ?

Susan

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of J.Michael Manning
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:06 PM
To: George.Schreck@PacifiCorp.com; shane.young@comcast.net;
anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu; news4joel@gmail.com
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?

Thanks George,
That's exactly the point. I never said that public urination is not an
issue. I am just asking why does everybody need to know who the offender
is?
Mike Manning

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Schreck, George

Well get over it. We already had a crucifixation this weekend. The
offender was punished and we do not need all the other intermeddlers
piling on.

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Hoffman [mailto:t.hoffman10@verizon.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:07 PM
To: 'J.Michael Manning'; Schreck, George; shane.young@comcast.net;
anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu; news4joel@gmail.com
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?

Cuz we are all pissed off at him (or Her)

Thomas Hoffman
\
XX-----Original Message-----
XXFrom: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
On Behalf XXOf J.Michael Manning
XXSent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:06 PM
XXTo: George.Schreck@PacifiCorp.com; shane.young@comcast.net;
XXanthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu; news4joel@gmail.com
XXCc: obra@list.obra.org
XXSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
XX
XXThanks George,
XXThat's exactly the point. I never said that public urination is not an
XXissue. I am just asking why does everybody need to know who the
offender is?
XXMike Manning
XX
XX
XX>From: "Schreck, George"
XX>To: shane.young@comcast.net, "J.Michael Manning"
XX>,anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu,
XX>news4joel@gmail.com
XX>CC: obra@list.obra.org
XX>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
XX>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:23:08 -0700
XX>
XX>All I think Mike is trying to say is that the person was punished by
XX>the DQ and at that point, there is no point in have the entire OBRA
XX>community pursue it further with respect to the individual. I think
XX>we all agree that if there are bathrooms available they should be
used.
XX>
XX>________________________________
XX>
XX>From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
XX>On Behalf Of shane.young@comcast.net
XX>Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 11:02 AM
XX>To: J.Michael Manning; anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu;
XX>news4joel@gmail.com
XX>Cc: obra@list.obra.org
XX>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
XX>
XX>
XX>What difference does it make anyways? Hello... Anyone there? The
XX>difference is if this were to continue then we could loose another
XX>race venue. In the case of PIR that could be 40 plus races out of
XX>the year because they could decide to get rid of all the bicycle
XX>racing at the course. That is road, cross and short track MTB.
XX>
XX>
XX> -------------- Original message --------------
XX> From: "J.Michael Manning"
XX>
XX> > I think I speak for the majority when I say we really don't
care
XX>who it was.
XX> > And what difference does it make anyway? Are you planning some

XX>kind of
XX> > public humiliation? Are we going to brand this person by
making
XX>them wear a
XX> > big yellow P on thier chest?
XX> > Mike Manning
XX> >
XX> >
XX> > >From: "Anthony Cree"
XX> > >Reply-To: anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu
XX> > >To: "Joel Morrissette"
XX> > >CC: obra@list.obra.org
XX> > >Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
XX> > >Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:49:05 -0700
XX> > >
XX> > >Why would you assume it was a he?
XX> > >
XX> > >On 4/19/06, Joel Morrissette wrote:
XX> & gt; &g t; >
XX> > > > But did he do it while RIDING? = )
XX> > > >
XX> > > >
XX> > > > On 4/19/06, Lisa Winchester wrote:
XX> > > > >
XX> > > > > Curiousity begs the question...who was this?
XX> > > > >
XX> > > > > Subject: Results-PIR April 18
XX> > > > > Date: 04/18/2006 09:37 PM
XX> > > > > From: Candi Murray
XX> > > > > Rider #504 dq'd for urinating in public. There are
restrooms
XX>at this
XX> > > > > event.
XX> > > > > What were you thinking?
XX> > > > >
XX> > > > >
XX> > > > > _______________________________________________
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XX> > > > & gt;
XX> > > >
XX> > > >
XX> > > >
XX> > > > --
XX> > > > __o "It never gets easier,
XX> > > > _ \<_ you just go faster."
XX> > > > (_)/(_) -- Greg LeMond
XX> > > >
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Curt Dewees

I agree with Doug. We're pissing away way too much time on this topic.

On 4/19/06, Douglas Duguay wrote:
>
> I'm probably not the only one on this list that feels the point has been
> made and we should move on from here. I'm sure the person who pee'd feels
> as terrible as they should and that the public flogging is overduing it a
> little bit. As far as we all know, no race venues have been lost as a
> result of anyone's actions.
>
> Please go back to work or else I will tell your bosses.
>
> *dansilvernail@comcast.net* wrote:
>
> Seems like this problem never goes away. I saw a guy get a 3 minute time
> penalty for peeing on the starting line at the Columbia Plateau one year.
> OOOOHH! That's like giving a $50.00 fine for a DWI. I almost peed on the
> line myself.
>
> A 60 day licence suspension would be a fitting punishment for public
> urination.
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Matt Ottinger"
>
> > J. Michael,
> > This is a significant issue. Race venues have been lost in the past due
> > to littering and or urinating in public. I care and I know others care.
> > There is no excuse at a venue where we even have several flush toilets
> > in a couple of locations, not just a couple of out houses that serve
> > both male and female populations.
> >
> > This is not about public humiliation. This is about have a wonderful
> > variety of venues and a cycling community that values what we have here
> > in the great NW.
> >
> >
> > Matt Ottinger, Associate
> > Clark//Kjos Architects, LLC
> > 333 NW 5th Ave.
> > Portland, OR 97209
> >
> > Phone: 503/224-4848
> >
> > Fax: 503/224-7116
> & gt;
> > Email: mattottinger@ckarch.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> > Behalf Of J.Michael Manning
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:55 AM
> > To: anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu; news4joel@gmail.com
> > Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
> >
> > I think I speak for the majority when I say we really don't care who it
> > was.
> > And what difference does it make anyway? Are you planning some kind of
> > public humiliation? Are we going to brand this person by making them
> > wear a big yellow P on thier chest?
> > Mike Manning
> >
> >
> > >From: "Anthony Cree"
> > >Reply-To: anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu
> > >To: "Joel Morrissette"
> > >CC: obra@list.obra.org
> > >Subject: Re: [O BRA Chat] OK...who peed?
> > >Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:49:05 -0700
> > >
> > >Why would you assume it was a he?
> > >
> > >On 4/19/06, Joel Morrissette wrote:
> > > >
> > > > But did he do it while RIDING? = )
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 4/19/06, Lisa Winchester wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Curiousity begs the question...who was this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Subject: Results-PIR April 18
> > > > > Date: 04/18/2006 09:37 PM
> > > > > From: Candi Murray Rider #504 dq'd for
> > > > > urinating in public. There are restrooms at this event.
> > > > > What were you thinking?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > OB RA mai ling list
> > > > > obra@list.obra.org
> > > > > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> > > > > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > __o "It never gets easier,
> > > > _ \<_ you just go faster."
> > > > (_)/(_) -- Greg LeMond
> > > >
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> > > > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
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Douglas Duguay

I'm probably not the only one on this list that feels the point has been made and we should move on from here. I'm sure the person who pee'd feels as terrible as they should and that the public flogging is overduing it a little bit. As far as we all know, no race venues have been lost as a result of anyone's actions.

Please go back to work or else I will tell your bosses.

dansilvernail@comcast.net wrote:
Seems like this problem never goes away. I saw a guy get a 3 minute time penalty for peeing on the starting line at the Columbia Plateau one year. OOOOHH! That's like giving a $50.00 fine for a DWI. I almost peed on the line myself.

A 60 day licence suspension would be a fitting punishment for public urination.

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Matt Ottinger"

> J. Michael,
> This is a significant issue. Race venues have been lost in the past due
> to littering and or urinating in public. I care and I know others care.
> There is no excuse at a venue where we even have several flush toilets
> in a couple of locations, not just a couple of out houses that serve
> both male and female populations.
>
> This is not about public humiliation. This is about have a wonderful
> variety of venues and a cycling community that values what we have here
> in the great NW.
>
>
> Matt Ottinger, Associate
> Clark//Kjos Architects, LLC
> 333 NW 5th Ave.
> Portland, OR 97209
>
> Phone: 503/224-4848
>
> Fax: 503/224-7116
& gt;
> Email: mattottinger@ckarch.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of J.Michael Manning
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:55 AM
> To: anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu; news4joel@gmail.com
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
>
> I think I speak for the majority when I say we really don't care who it
> was.
> And what difference does it make anyway? Are you planning some kind of
> public humiliation? Are we going to brand this person by making them
> wear a big yellow P on thier chest?
> Mike Manning
>
>
> >From: "Anthony Cree"
> >Reply-To: anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu
> >To: "Joel Morrissette"
> >CC: obra@list.obra.org
> >Subject: Re: [O BRA Chat] OK...who peed?
> >Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:49:05 -0700
> >
> >Why would you assume it was a he?
> >
> >On 4/19/06, Joel Morrissette wrote:
> > >
> > > But did he do it while RIDING? = )
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/19/06, Lisa Winchester wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Curiousity begs the question...who was this?
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Results-PIR April 18
> > > > Date: 04/18/2006 09:37 PM
> > > > From: Candi Murray Rider #504 dq'd for
> > > > urinating in public. There are restrooms at this event.
> > > > What were you thinking?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > OB RA mai ling list
> > > > obra@list.obra.org
> > > > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> > > > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > __o "It never gets easier,
> > > _ \<_ you just go faster."
> > > (_)/(_) -- Greg LeMond
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > OBRA mailing list
> > > obra@list.obra.org
> > > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> > > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
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dansilvernail@comcast.net

Seems like this problem never goes away. I saw a guy get a 3 minute time penalty for peeing on the starting line at the Columbia Plateau one year. OOOOHH! That's like giving a $50.00 fine for a DWI. I almost peed on the line myself.

A 60 day licence suspension would be a fitting punishment for public urination.

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Matt Ottinger"

> J. Michael,
> This is a significant issue. Race venues have been lost in the past due
> to littering and or urinating in public. I care and I know others care.
> There is no excuse at a venue where we even have several flush toilets
> in a couple of locations, not just a couple of out houses that serve
> both male and female populations.
>
> This is not about public humiliation. This is about have a wonderful
> variety of venues and a cycling community that values what we have here
> in the great NW.
>
>
> Matt Ottinger, Associate
> Clark//Kjos Architects, LLC
> 333 NW 5th Ave.
> Portland, OR 97209
>
> Phone: 503/224-4848
>
> Fax: 503/224-7116
>
> Email: mattottinger@ckarch.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of J.Michael Manning
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:55 AM
> To: anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu; news4joel@gmail.com
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
>
> I think I speak for the majority when I say we really don't care who it
> was.
> And what difference does it make anyway? Are you planning some kind of
> public humiliation? Are we going to brand this person by making them
> wear a big yellow P on thier chest?
> Mike Manning
>
>
> >From: "Anthony Cree"
> >Reply-To: anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu
> >To: "Joel Morrissette"
> >CC: obra@list.obra.org
> >Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
> >Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:49:05 -0700
> >
> >Why would you assume it was a he?
> >
> >On 4/19/06, Joel Morrissette wrote:
> > >
> > > But did he do it while RIDING? = )
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/19/06, Lisa Winchester wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Curiousity begs the question...who was this?
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Results-PIR April 18
> > > > Date: 04/18/2006 09:37 PM
> > > > From: Candi Murray Rider #504 dq'd for
> > > > urinating in public. There are restrooms at this event.
> > > > What were you thinking?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > OBRA mailing list
> > > > obra@list.obra.org
> > > > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> > > > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > __o "It never gets easier,
> > > _ \<_ you just go faster."
> > > (_)/(_) -- Greg LeMond
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > OBRA mailing list
> > > obra@list.obra.org
> > > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> > > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
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Joe Cipale

His number is alrady out there... it doesnt take a rocket scientist to
dig and find out who it is...

J.Michael Manning wrote:

> I gaurantee you that whoever offended all of OBRA is hoping that those who
> know his name will keep it to themselves. Just the threat or fear of
> exposure is probably enough to prevent this individual from repeating the
> offense...unless he is just an uncaring idiot!
>
>
> >From: "Susan Otcenas"
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
> >Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:46:34 -0700
> >
> >Because perhaps the threat of public humiliation is the only thing that
> >will cause some people to think twice before jeopardizing an important race
> >venue? Think about it, would YOU want to be known as the guy that cause
> >cyclists to be banned from ?
> >
> >Susan
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> >Behalf Of J.Michael Manning
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:06 PM
> >To: George.Schreck@PacifiCorp.com; shane.young@comcast.net;
> >anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu; news4joel@gmail.com
> >Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> >Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
> >
> >
> >Thanks George,
> >That's exactly the point. I never said that public urination is not an
> >issue. I am just asking why does everybody need to know who the offender
> >is?
> >Mike Manning
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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J.Michael Manning

I gaurantee you that whoever offended all of OBRA is hoping that those who
know his name will keep it to themselves. Just the threat or fear of
exposure is probably enough to prevent this individual from repeating the
offense...unless he is just an uncaring idiot!

>From: "Susan Otcenas"
>To:
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:46:34 -0700
>
>Because perhaps the threat of public humiliation is the only thing that
>will cause some people to think twice before jeopardizing an important race
>venue? Think about it, would YOU want to be known as the guy that cause
>cyclists to be banned from ?
>
>Susan
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>Behalf Of J.Michael Manning
>Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:06 PM
>To: George.Schreck@PacifiCorp.com; shane.young@comcast.net;
>anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu; news4joel@gmail.com
>Cc: obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
>
>
>Thanks George,
>That's exactly the point. I never said that public urination is not an
>issue. I am just asking why does everybody need to know who the offender
>is?
>Mike Manning
>
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Craig Austin

We've lost race venues for just this reason; someone decided to stop
during the 'cross race at Lake Oswego Junior high and pee on the side of
the school. Right in front of the window. Of a room full of teachers
having a meeting. No more races there.

And yes, there were plenty of honey pots right around the corner.

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Susan Otcenas
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:47 PM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?

Because perhaps the threat of public humiliation is the only thing that
will cause some people to think twice before jeopardizing an important
race venue? Think about it, would YOU want to be known as the guy that
cause cyclists to be banned from ?

Susan

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of J.Michael Manning
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:06 PM
To: George.Schreck@PacifiCorp.com; shane.young@comcast.net;
anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu; news4joel@gmail.com
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?

Thanks George,
That's exactly the point. I never said that public urination is not an
issue. I am just asking why does everybody need to know who the offender
is?
Mike Manning

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Susan Otcenas

Because perhaps the threat of public humiliation is the only thing that
will cause some people to think twice before jeopardizing an important race
venue? Think about it, would YOU want to be known as the guy that cause
cyclists to be banned from ?

Susan

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of J.Michael Manning
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:06 PM
To: George.Schreck@PacifiCorp.com; shane.young@comcast.net;
anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu; news4joel@gmail.com
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?

Thanks George,
That's exactly the point. I never said that public urination is not an
issue. I am just asking why does everybody need to know who the offender is?
Mike Manning

Curt Dewees

Because none of the women riders I know are that dumb.

On 4/19/06, Anthony Cree wrote:
>
> Why would you assume it was a he?
>
>
> On 4/19/06, Joel Morrissette wrote:
> >
> > But did he do it while RIDING? = )
> >
> >
> > On 4/19/06, Lisa Winchester wrote:
> > >
> > > Curiousity begs the question...who was this?
> > >
> > > Subject: Results-PIR April 18
> > > Date: 04/18/2006 09:37 PM
> > > From: Candi Murray
> > > Rider #504 dq'd for urinating in public. There are restrooms at this
> > > event.
> > > What were you thinking?
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > OBRA mailing list
> > > obra@list.obra.org
> > > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> > > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > __o "It never gets easier,
> > _ \<_ you just go faster."
> > (_)/(_) -- Greg LeMond
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > OBRA mailing list
> > obra@list.obra.org
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Thomas Hoffman

Cuz we are all pissed off at him (or Her)

Thomas Hoffman
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XX-----Original Message-----
XXFrom: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf
XXOf J.Michael Manning
XXSent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:06 PM
XXTo: George.Schreck@PacifiCorp.com; shane.young@comcast.net;
XXanthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu; news4joel@gmail.com
XXCc: obra@list.obra.org
XXSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
XX
XXThanks George,
XXThat's exactly the point. I never said that public urination is not an
XXissue. I am just asking why does everybody need to know who the offender
is?
XXMike Manning
XX
XX
XX>From: "Schreck, George"
XX>To: shane.young@comcast.net, "J.Michael Manning"
XX>,anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu,
XX>news4joel@gmail.com
XX>CC: obra@list.obra.org
XX>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
XX>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:23:08 -0700
XX>
XX>All I think Mike is trying to say is that the person was punished by the
XX>DQ and at that point, there is no point in have the entire OBRA
XX>community pursue it further with respect to the individual. I think we
XX>all agree that if there are bathrooms available they should be used.
XX>
XX>________________________________
XX>
XX>From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
XX>Behalf Of shane.young@comcast.net
XX>Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 11:02 AM
XX>To: J.Michael Manning; anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu;
XX>news4joel@gmail.com
XX>Cc: obra@list.obra.org
XX>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
XX>
XX>
XX>What difference does it make anyways? Hello... Anyone there? The
XX>difference is if this were to continue then we could loose another race
XX>venue. In the case of PIR that could be 40 plus races out of the year
XX>because they could decide to get rid of all the bicycle racing at the
XX>course. That is road, cross and short track MTB.
XX>
XX>
XX> -------------- Original message --------------
XX> From: "J.Michael Manning"
XX>
XX> > I think I speak for the majority when I say we really don't
XX>care who it was.
XX> > And what difference does it make anyway? Are you planning some
XX>kind of
XX> > public humiliation? Are we going to brand this person by
XX>making them wear a
XX> > big yellow P on thier chest?
XX> > Mike Manning
XX> >
XX> >
XX> > >From: "Anthony Cree"
XX> > >Reply-To: anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu
XX> > >To: "Joel Morrissette"
XX> > >CC: obra@list.obra.org
XX> > >Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
XX> > >Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:49:05 -0700
XX> > >
XX> > >Why would you assume it was a he?
XX> > >
XX> > >On 4/19/06, Joel Morrissette wrote:
XX> & gt; &g t; >
XX> > > > But did he do it while RIDING? = )
XX> > > >
XX> > > >
XX> > > > On 4/19/06, Lisa Winchester wrote:
XX> > > > >
XX> > > > > Curiousity begs the question...who was this?
XX> > > > >
XX> > > > > Subject: Results-PIR April 18
XX> > > > > Date: 04/18/2006 09:37 PM
XX> > > > > From: Candi Murray
XX> > > > > Rider #504 dq'd for urinating in public. There are
XX>restrooms at this
XX> > > > > event.
XX> > > > > What were you thinking?
XX> > > > >
XX> > > > >
XX> > > > > _______________________________________________
XX> > > > > OBRA mailing list
XX> > > > > obra@list.obra.org
XX> > > > > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
XX> > > > > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
XX> > > > & gt;
XX> > > >
XX> > > >
XX> > > >
XX> > > > --
XX> > > > __o "It never gets easier,
XX> > > > _ \<_ you just go faster."
XX> > > > (_)/(_) -- Greg LeMond
XX> > > >
XX> > > > _______________________________________________
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J.Michael Manning

Thanks George,
That's exactly the point. I never said that public urination is not an
issue. I am just asking why does everybody need to know who the offender is?
Mike Manning

>From: "Schreck, George"
>To: shane.young@comcast.net, "J.Michael Manning"
>,anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu,
>news4joel@gmail.com
>CC: obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:23:08 -0700
>
>All I think Mike is trying to say is that the person was punished by the
>DQ and at that point, there is no point in have the entire OBRA
>community pursue it further with respect to the individual. I think we
>all agree that if there are bathrooms available they should be used.
>
>________________________________
>
>From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>Behalf Of shane.young@comcast.net
>Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 11:02 AM
>To: J.Michael Manning; anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu;
>news4joel@gmail.com
>Cc: obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
>
>
>What difference does it make anyways? Hello... Anyone there? The
>difference is if this were to continue then we could loose another race
>venue. In the case of PIR that could be 40 plus races out of the year
>because they could decide to get rid of all the bicycle racing at the
>course. That is road, cross and short track MTB.
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "J.Michael Manning"
>
> > I think I speak for the majority when I say we really don't
>care who it was.
> > And what difference does it make anyway? Are you planning some
>kind of
> > public humiliation? Are we going to brand this person by
>making them wear a
> > big yellow P on thier chest?
> > Mike Manning
> >
> >
> > >From: "Anthony Cree"
> > >Reply-To: anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu
> > >To: "Joel Morrissette"
> > >CC: obra@list.obra.org
> > >Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
> > >Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:49:05 -0700
> > >
> > >Why would you assume it was a he?
> > >
> > >On 4/19/06, Joel Morrissette wrote:
> & gt; &g t; >
> > > > But did he do it while RIDING? = )
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 4/19/06, Lisa Winchester wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Curiousity begs the question...who was this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Subject: Results-PIR April 18
> > > > > Date: 04/18/2006 09:37 PM
> > > > > From: Candi Murray
> > > > > Rider #504 dq'd for urinating in public. There are
>restrooms at this
> > > > > event.
> > > > > What were you thinking?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > OBRA mailing list
> > > > > obra@list.obra.org
> > > > > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> > > > > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> > > > & gt;
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > __o "It never gets easier,
> > > > _ \<_ you just go faster."
> > > > (_)/(_) -- Greg LeMond
> > > >
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Joe Tysoe

I think it's pretty crappy to pee outside when there are restrooms
available.

(pun fully intended.)

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of J.Michael Manning
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:55 AM
To: anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu; news4joel@gmail.com
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?

I think I speak for the majority when I say we really don't care who it
was.
And what difference does it make anyway? Are you planning some kind of
public humiliation? Are we going to brand this person by making them
wear a
big yellow P on thier chest?
Mike Manning

>From: "Anthony Cree"
>Reply-To: anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu
>To: "Joel Morrissette"
>CC: obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:49:05 -0700
>
>Why would you assume it was a he?
>
>On 4/19/06, Joel Morrissette wrote:
> >
> > But did he do it while RIDING? = )
> >
> >
> > On 4/19/06, Lisa Winchester wrote:
> > >
> > > Curiousity begs the question...who was this?
> > >
> > > Subject: Results-PIR April 18
> > > Date: 04/18/2006 09:37 PM
> > > From: Candi Murray
> > > Rider #504 dq'd for urinating in public. There are restrooms at
> > > this event. What were you thinking?
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > OBRA mailing list
> > > obra@list.obra.org http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> > > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > __o "It never gets easier,
> > _ \<_ you just go faster."
> > (_)/(_) -- Greg LeMond
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > OBRA mailing list
> > obra@list.obra.org http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
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Schreck, George

All I think Mike is trying to say is that the person was punished by the
DQ and at that point, there is no point in have the entire OBRA
community pursue it further with respect to the individual. I think we
all agree that if there are bathrooms available they should be used.

________________________________

From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of shane.young@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 11:02 AM
To: J.Michael Manning; anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu;
news4joel@gmail.com
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?

What difference does it make anyways? Hello... Anyone there? The
difference is if this were to continue then we could loose another race
venue. In the case of PIR that could be 40 plus races out of the year
because they could decide to get rid of all the bicycle racing at the
course. That is road, cross and short track MTB.

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "J.Michael Manning"

> I think I speak for the majority when I say we really don't
care who it was.
> And what difference does it make anyway? Are you planning some
kind of
> public humiliation? Are we going to brand this person by
making them wear a
> big yellow P on thier chest?
> Mike Manning
>
>
> >From: "Anthony Cree"
> >Reply-To: anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu
> >To: "Joel Morrissette"
> >CC: obra@list.obra.org
> >Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
> >Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:49:05 -0700
> >
> >Why would you assume it was a he?
> >
> >On 4/19/06, Joel Morrissette wrote:
& gt; &g t; >
> > > But did he do it while RIDING? = )
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/19/06, Lisa Winchester wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Curiousity begs the question...who was this?
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Results-PIR April 18
> > > > Date: 04/18/2006 09:37 PM
> > > > From: Candi Murray
> > > > Rider #504 dq'd for urinating in public. There are
restrooms at this
> > > > event.
> > > > What were you thinking?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > OBRA mailing list
> > > > obra@list.obra.org
> > > > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> > > > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> > > & gt;
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > __o "It never gets easier,
> > > _ \<_ you just go faster."
> > > (_)/(_) -- Greg LeMond
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > OBRA mailing list
> > > obra@list.obra.org
> > > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
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> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
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Matt Ottinger

J. Michael,
This is a significant issue. Race venues have been lost in the past due
to littering and or urinating in public. I care and I know others care.
There is no excuse at a venue where we even have several flush toilets
in a couple of locations, not just a couple of out houses that serve
both male and female populations.

This is not about public humiliation. This is about have a wonderful
variety of venues and a cycling community that values what we have here
in the great NW.

Matt Ottinger, Associate
Clark//Kjos Architects, LLC
333 NW 5th Ave.
Portland, OR 97209

Phone: 503/224-4848

Fax: 503/224-7116

Email: mattottinger@ckarch.com

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of J.Michael Manning
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:55 AM
To: anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu; news4joel@gmail.com
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?

I think I speak for the majority when I say we really don't care who it
was.
And what difference does it make anyway? Are you planning some kind of
public humiliation? Are we going to brand this person by making them
wear a big yellow P on thier chest?
Mike Manning

>From: "Anthony Cree"
>Reply-To: anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu
>To: "Joel Morrissette"
>CC: obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:49:05 -0700
>
>Why would you assume it was a he?
>
>On 4/19/06, Joel Morrissette wrote:
> >
> > But did he do it while RIDING? = )
> >
> >
> > On 4/19/06, Lisa Winchester wrote:
> > >
> > > Curiousity begs the question...who was this?
> > >
> > > Subject: Results-PIR April 18
> > > Date: 04/18/2006 09:37 PM
> > > From: Candi Murray Rider #504 dq'd for
> > > urinating in public. There are restrooms at this event.
> > > What were you thinking?
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > OBRA mailing list
> > > obra@list.obra.org
> > > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> > > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > __o "It never gets easier,
> > _ \<_ you just go faster."
> > (_)/(_) -- Greg LeMond
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > OBRA mailing list
> > obra@list.obra.org
> > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> >
> >
> >

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shane.young@comcast.net

What difference does it make anyways? Hello... Anyone there? The difference is if this were to continue then we could loose another race venue. In the case of PIR that could be 40 plus races out of the year because they could decide to get rid of all the bicycle racing at the course. That is road, cross and short track MTB.

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "J.Michael Manning"

> I think I speak for the majority when I say we really don't care who it was.
> And what difference does it make anyway? Are you planning some kind of
> public humiliation? Are we going to brand this person by making them wear a
> big yellow P on thier chest?
> Mike Manning
>
>
> >From: "Anthony Cree"
> >Reply-To: anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu
> >To: "Joel Morrissette"
> >CC: obra@list.obra.org
> >Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
> >Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:49:05 -0700
> >
> >Why would you assume it was a he?
> >
> >On 4/19/06, Joel Morrissette wrote:
> > >
> > > But did he do it while RIDING? = )
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/19/06, Lisa Winchester wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Curiousity begs the question...who was this?
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Results-PIR April 18
> > > > Date: 04/18/2006 09:37 PM
> > > > From: Candi Murray
> > > > Rider #504 dq'd for urinating in public. There are restrooms at this
> > > > event.
> > > > What were you thinking?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > OBRA mailing list
> > > > obra@list.obra.org
> > > > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> > > > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > __o "It never gets easier,
> > > _ \<_ you just go faster."
> > > (_)/(_) -- Greg LeMond
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > OBRA mailing list
> > > obra@list.obra.org
> > > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
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>
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J.Michael Manning

I think I speak for the majority when I say we really don't care who it was.
And what difference does it make anyway? Are you planning some kind of
public humiliation? Are we going to brand this person by making them wear a
big yellow P on thier chest?
Mike Manning

>From: "Anthony Cree"
>Reply-To: anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu
>To: "Joel Morrissette"
>CC: obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OK...who peed?
>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:49:05 -0700
>
>Why would you assume it was a he?
>
>On 4/19/06, Joel Morrissette wrote:
> >
> > But did he do it while RIDING? = )
> >
> >
> > On 4/19/06, Lisa Winchester wrote:
> > >
> > > Curiousity begs the question...who was this?
> > >
> > > Subject: Results-PIR April 18
> > > Date: 04/18/2006 09:37 PM
> > > From: Candi Murray
> > > Rider #504 dq'd for urinating in public. There are restrooms at this
> > > event.
> > > What were you thinking?
> > >
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Ron Feldman

PIR,

Are you kidding me!!!!!!!!!
O.K. we all know that we have done this at some point while racing or riding, maybe not so close to a public restroom though.

"Joel Morrissette" wrote:

>But did he do it while RIDING? = )
>
>On 4/19/06, Lisa Winchester wrote:
>>
>> Curiousity begs the question...who was this?
>>
>> Subject: Results-PIR April 18
>> Date: 04/18/2006 09:37 PM
>> From: Candi Murray
>> Rider #504 dq'd for urinating in public. There are restrooms at this
>> event.
>> What were you thinking?
>>
>>
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Anthony Cree

Why would you assume it was a he?

On 4/19/06, Joel Morrissette wrote:
>
> But did he do it while RIDING? = )
>
>
> On 4/19/06, Lisa Winchester wrote:
> >
> > Curiousity begs the question...who was this?
> >
> > Subject: Results-PIR April 18
> > Date: 04/18/2006 09:37 PM
> > From: Candi Murray
> > Rider #504 dq'd for urinating in public. There are restrooms at this
> > event.
> > What were you thinking?
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > OBRA mailing list
> > obra@list.obra.org
> > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
> __o "It never gets easier,
> _ \<_ you just go faster."
> (_)/(_) -- Greg LeMond
>
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Joel Morrissette

But did he do it while RIDING? = )

On 4/19/06, Lisa Winchester wrote:
>
> Curiousity begs the question...who was this?
>
> Subject: Results-PIR April 18
> Date: 04/18/2006 09:37 PM
> From: Candi Murray
> Rider #504 dq'd for urinating in public. There are restrooms at this
> event.
> What were you thinking?
>
>
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_ \<_ you just go faster."
(_)/(_) -- Greg LeMond

Lisa Winchester

Curiousity begs the question...who was this?

Subject: Results-PIR April 18
Date: 04/18/2006 09:37 PM
From: Candi Murray
Rider #504 dq'd for urinating in public. There are restrooms at this event.
What were you thinking?